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Have you ever worked a manual labor type job?

Asked by hug_of_war (10735points) October 29th, 2014

There’s roofers working on my apartment. Which got me wondering about what it’s like to work any type of hard labor job.

How do you deal with heat and/or cold if it’s an outside job? (it’s only about 45 degrees, and there is a bit of wind). Is there a lot of pressure to keep going at a steady pace? How did you learn the skills needed? Do you just get used to that level of physical exertion? What do/did you like about this type of work? What didn’t you like? Were injuries common? Etc. I’d just like to know what it’s like.

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flutherother's avatar

We used to go ‘tattie picking’ when we were around nine or ten years old. A lorry came round to pick us up in the dark and drop us off in a field in the middle of nowhere. All the kids went. We spent the day picking potatoes and putting them into metal or plastic baskets. It was cold at first, sometimes with frost on the ground because it was November but it usually warmed up later. We were quite well paid and were allowed to take some potatoes home with us every day. Happy days. They have machines that pick the potatoes now.

CWOTUS's avatar

For short stretches in my life I have. I worked a summer in college as a Boilermaker as a “permit” guy (my father was the construction manager on the project, and the Boilermakers’ union allowed me to work that summer on permit; I have no idea what kind of concessions he had to make to the Union to allow me on the payroll). That was hot, sweaty work, and the first day nearly did me in. I had been assigned to work at the top of the boiler building (fortunately this was during construction, so the boiler wasn’t running and the building was no hotter than it already was), and I got heat exhaustion. I knew that it would embarrass Dad if I had to quit early or request relief, so I stuck it out… and was sick all the way home, and all that night. Fortunately I was still living at home that summer, so he knew I wasn’t dogging it or faking. After that first day, the rest of the summer was a comparative breeze.

Other than that, the work involved a lot of running up and down stairs to fetch tools, cut sheet metal on the chop saw (I worked a lot with a crew of insulators, and had to do a lot of sheet metal work to attach the insulation to the boiler, and later with the sheet metal workers to cover the insulation with aluminum lagging for its protection). There were a lot of minor nicks and cuts, and the mineral wool insulation was itchy all day when it got onto your skin. (So you’d have to cover up good – in the summer, of course – to try to prevent that.)

I got to work with tools that I had never used before: acetylene torches; chop saws; come-alongs; chain falls; Porta-powers and bigger wrenches than I had ever used before (or since). Building a boiler, as we say, is “not like building a Swiss watch”, so there was a lot of banging with sledges to make things fit better. I learned what “a little red hair” means in terms of boiler erection, and I learned why Boilermakers have a (deserved) reputation sometimes for “a 3 hat and a 30 neck”, but I generally had a good time that summer, and made a ton of money – which I had to spend 100% for college.

Another summer I worked for the Worcester Parks Department, which was a lot more boring, mostly mowing lawns with huge mowers, some various small repairs, and cleaning bathrooms (and women’s rooms, for some reason that was never clear to me, really are the pits – in every different park we worked where I had to clean bathrooms, the women’s rooms were always trashed; men’s rooms would be messy, but never appeared to have been deliberately trashed; women’s rooms, always).

And finally, once during a half-year of unemployment – Winter 1991–92, I worked with my father-in-law, who had a State of Michigan grant to insulate low-income houses in and around Berrien County, MI. That was cold work, since it was nearly all outside (blowing cellulose insulation between the sheathing and inner walls of homes, through holes that we drilled in the outside sheathing). The insulation we used was bagged cellulose that had to be broken apart and run through a chopper with the blower mounted, which blew the chopped insulation through a flexible hose and into the series of holes that we would drill and later cover. Sometimes we’d also replace broken windows (part of the grant) and weatherstrip windows, insulate attics and crawl spaces under homes. That part was the worst. One afternoon while insulating under the crawl space of a big home in Benton Harbor (completely dark, of course, except for whatever drop lights and flashlights we’d drag in with ourselves to get the work done) I rolled over a dead cat. I didn’t know it was a dead cat (only something that didn’t feel right) until my brother-in-law whistled at me afterward and pointed it out with his flashlight. That was not a fun afternoon.

As for the weather, when you work outdoor work in most construction, you dress for the weather. Plan to be cool in the morning and wear layers that you can take off as needed – and when you’re working in the winter, then you dress in tons of layers that you hope you’ll be able to eventually shed as you warm from the exertion.

Most injuries are avoidable, but “back in the day” safety was not emphasized as much as it is now. A lot of people work with zero safety training in how to avoid injury and prevent accidents. When I was younger it was not uncommon to see men working without hardhats, without fall-prevention harnesses, lanyards and lifelines; no one used to wear steel-toed boots as a rule, and gloves were something you wore only when you had to. (When you work with wire slings you learn what “meat hooks” those tiny wires can be as the sling ages and the wires break from time to time.)

And when it rains steadily and you’re working outdoor work, as a rule you just turn around and go home. (Unions usually have a provision in the contract for “show-up time”, where the worker will be paid for two hours just for showing up on bad days. That’s not a feature of smaller non-union residential home construction, as a rule.)

I recommend that everyone should do some “real work” at some point in their lives; it gives a much greater appreciation for what it takes to get things done.

zenvelo's avatar

I worked as a Steamfitter apprentice at an oil refinery construction project for a couple of summers.(@CWOTUS we didn’t like Boilermakers! :-) My first year, I was mostly doing tracking, inventory and movement of pre-fabbed pipe and fittings, but I did enough physical work to get in pretty good shape.

The second summer I was mostly a welder’s assistant, prepping steel and grinding welds. A great summer of getting in shape.

I was working on the shore of San Francisco Bay, so even though it was summer, I wore a jean jacket just about everyday. But eating a lot of food and drinking a lot of coffee while doing a lot of work kept me warm.

Blondesjon's avatar

I have and still do although it’s in a supervisory position now. The temperature in our shop averages around 105 in the summer and 40 in the Winter.

I married my wife of 22 years when we were both 21. I needed a job and got on at a print shop where I worked for 8 years. It was hard work.

It was hot in the summer and cold in the winter.

I moved on from the print shop to a gig with Stanley Steemer. This lasted nearly 4 years. It was hard work.

It was hot in the summer and cold in the winter.

I then spent 7 years working on a farm. This was probably the hardest labor I have done to date.

It was hot in the summer and cold in the winter.

I, personally, was able to work these jobs because although I am not the strongest, smartest, or most skilled I am a guy who doesn’t quit.

If you have a labor intensive job the only way to stay at it is to stay at it. Either you get used to it or you fall out.

marinelife's avatar

In high school, I worked one summer in a cannery. It was rough work. Standing for the entire shift in knee-deep ice cold water (wearing thigh-high boots, but still freezing), bending over the production line. The answer is that you just get used to it.

CWOTUS's avatar

This is apropos:

Ode to the Field Engineer
Anonymous

When the earth was created, the power above
Gave each man a job to work at and love.
He made doctors, carpenters, plumbers and then,
He made lawyers and singers and confidence men.

And when each had a job to work as he should,
The lord looked them all over and saw it was good.
He then sat down to rest for a day,
When a pitiful cry chanced to come his way.

The lord looked down and his eyes opened wide,
For a motley collection of bums stood outside.
“Oh! What can they want?” the creator asked then.
“Help us,” they cried out. “Find a job for us men.”

“We have no profession,” they said in dismay,
“And even the jails have turned us away.”
Said the lord, “I’ve seen many things without worth.
“But here I find gathered the scum of the earth.”

The lord was perplexed, and then he was mad.
For of all the jobs, there was none to be had!
Then he spoke aloud in a deep, angry tone,
“For ever and ever ye mongrels shall roam.
“Ye shall freeze in the summer and sweat when it’s cold.
“Ye shall work on equipment that’s dirty and old.
“Ye shall crawl under raised floors, and cables ye lay.
“Ye shall be called out at midnight and work through the day.
“Ye shall work on all holidays and not make your worth.
“Ye shall be blamed for all downtime that occurs on the earth.
“Ye shall watch all the glory go to Software and Sales.
“Ye shall be blamed by them both when the system then fails.
“Ye shall be paid with nothing but sorrow and tears.
“Ye shall be forever cursed and called FIELD ENGINEERS!”

snowberry's avatar

I’ve done janitorial for 30 years. That also is heavy work. Sometimes it takes two people to push a trash bag over the lip of a trash bin, and if the bag breaks, well that’s your tough luck. It’s lots of bending and lifting, and you don’t have time to stroll along. Some jobs are more intense than others. One place I went everywhere at a trot. Lots of janitors don’t know this, but it’s always wise to hold the trash bags away from your body in case there was a drug user who was careless where they put their needle. Some people have gotten hepatitis or HIV that way.

Janitorial also exposes you to lots of chemicals, but that’s another discussion.

CWOTUS's avatar

This also applies (and can be seen as graffiti in nearly every boiler building I’ve ever seen – not written there by me!)

We the Unwilling
Led by the Unknowing
Are doing the Impossible
For the Ungrateful.

We have done so much
For so long
With so little
That we are now capable
Of doing anything
With nothing.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

When I was at school I had a manual type job for a few months. Money is money. If I need a job I’ll do what I have to do to get by.

JLeslie's avatar

Yes. Retail.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Plenty, the hardest was probably the lumber yard or putting up hay. My white collar job even has days that are like this at times too. I can end up in some pretty nasty places or out in the heat and cold installing equipment or taking measurements.

syz's avatar

I haven’t ever held a “manual labor” job, but I’ve held jobs that required a lot of physical labor. Probably the hardest was the non-profit that I worked for. We had over 300 animals ranging from a 3 lb grisson to an 800 lb tiger hybrid. The animals needed care no matter the weather – actually, they needed extra care in extreme weather. I remember having chills and vomiting from heatstroke one brutal summer. Winters were the worst. Cutting up a couple hundred lbs of fruit for feed outside, fingers too cold to know if you’ve cut them or not. Coming inside to sit by the woodstove (the only heat in the building) when it was 33 degrees and raining outside, the soles of my boots smoking from having them desperately close to the stove for heat.

stanleybmanly's avatar

45 degree weather is actually a nice temperature for steady physical effort. Roofers really have it hard in the summer months. And it’s one of those occupations notorious for serious disabling injuries.

kritiper's avatar

Manual labor? Like being a Diesel mechanic, in the summer, in the sun, working on a hot (180 degree) engine that is bigger than you are and weighs 2000 lbs? (LOTS of radiant heat!!!) Yup, been there! True blue collar work!

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

@hug_of_war I grew up on a dairy farm. Holstein cows eat over 60 pounds of dry matter a day. Hay makes a good food. It’s also a pain in the ass to handle. We had a hay baler that threw the 60 to 70 pound bales into the wagon, about 250 bales per wagon. We had to unload each bale and put it on an elevator that moved the hay up to the mow. When the hay goes into the mow, it heats up and cures. As the hay piles up someone has to go in to the mow and throw the bales to the side. It gets hot, like 130 degrees F with 100 percent humidity. You come out of there hot, soaked and dusty. It’s a real picnic. Not.

gondwanalon's avatar

I worked in an aluminum extrusion factory one summer when I was in college in LA California. It was hell. The other workers were all Mexican and spoke little English and most of them hated me (the white college boy). It was hot outside and like an oven inside where we worked with 600 degree F aluminum pulling it out of the extruded, stretching it, cutting it and shipping it. We use to take salt tablets because we sweated so much. I believe that one of the other workers tried to burn me by throwing hot aluminum at me and succeeded on several occasions. That experience made me study harder in college for a successful future. I never wanted to go back to a job like that.

jerv's avatar

Being a machinist often involves a lot of lifting and a considerable amount of hammering (usually with a soft-faced hammer) to get the part exactly where it needs to be.

Being an enlisted man in the Navy is even more grueling at times, but I’d rather not get into that :/

Adagio's avatar

I picked and packed strawberries one summer, does that count?

trailsillustrated's avatar

Picked berries as a little kid. Worked in an aged care home as a teenager, very hard work. Worked in a doorknob factory in freezing Sheffield also as a teen now that sucked.

SavoirFaire's avatar

Yes. I’ve painted houses, loaded trucks for FedEx, and had a job that involved moving furniture.

The only one of these that involved much skill was painting. I was given training on various brushstrokes my first day. I’d be shown which technique was appropriate for a certain area, demonstrate an ability to do it, then let loose on that section of the house. Then we’d repeat the cycle with a new technique. This isn’t to say I wasn’t given tips at the other jobs. But the “training” at FedEx was watching a video on how not to break stuff, and the furniture store training was mostly about how not to get stuck in a corner when moving larger pieces.

As for temperature, keep in mind that it’s not only a problem with outside jobs. When I worked for FedEx, it was at one of their major hubs. It could get very hot in the facility, especially with all of the equipment around us (mostly conveyor belts). We kept water bottles with us, and at least one person fainted while I worked there. And there was a ton of pressure to keep up the pace there. If you didn’t, you got fired. In fact, the first thing I was told (by a more experienced coworker) when I opened my first truck was to ignore the video because the procedure it laid out would get you fired.

I never broke anything, but I did get yelled at a lot for not going fast enough. And that’s why FedEx continues to have more damaged packages than any other shipping company in the world.

Luckily, I was never injured at any of these jobs (at least not in any serious way). I did almost fall off the side of a house once, though, while painting. It was my second job, and the boss decided to set the ladder up on some loose rocks (there weren’t a lot of good places to put it). He assured me it would all be fine. The ladder shifted about halfway through painting that section, and I ended up clinging onto a window ledge. I ended up painting the other side of the house that day.

Shut_Yo_Mouth's avatar

Dug out septic tanks temporarily, but I’m trained in a trade. What some people don’t get when they see construction workers apparently just standing around is that when the man power is needed it is need 30 minutes ago. No time for little things, if it doesn’t require stitches it’s first aid and duct tape. Of course sit down to collect a breath and let the head clear. I’ve been lucky I’ve worked with great guys. Some places out there are horrible like with ignorant foremen with no social graces. Labor and gentlemen are not contradictions.

longgone's avatar

Yes. I’ve shoveled sand for a sea turtle sanctuary in Costa Rica, and at the moment, I’m training dogs. I wouldn’t call that “manual labor”, per se, but it is physically exhausting.

The shoveling sand was brutal, especially in Costa Rican heat. I used to fill my hat with water before putting it on. We also took care to get started early.

The dog training is fine unless it’s cold. Or worse, cold and wet. It is not a lot of fun during December, January, and probably February. The work cheers me up, though, and I take care to dress appropriately.

flutherother's avatar

I delivered milk from the age of 14 which entailed getting up at 5:30am in all weathers to deliver bottles of milk and cartons of cream to people’s doorsteps. Later when I was a student I worked in a market garden, watering flowers, cutting them, making up cardboard boxes and filling them with bunches of dahlias and chrysanthemums. I used to listen to the radio which as it was the late 1960’s seemed to play nothing but ‘flower power’ music. At night I used to have nightmares about flowers.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I’ve been putting in 70 hour weeks here lately. Some of it has been out in 20 degree weather with a nice 10mph or so wind.

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