@dappled
Yeah, the b.) part of that is what concerns me. It’s quite easy to hide animal derived products like stocks etc. and so difficult for a standard restaurants to substitute for them.
Altho I’m not Vegan, I have several vegan cookbooks because they contain some really novel ideas.
For instance, one frequent substitute for cream is to take plain cashew nuts, soak them in water overnight and then put blend to a creamy consistency. Used properly, one would be hard pressed to know that a sauce made with this has no cream.
But it’s also not something any conventional restaurant just happens to have handy.
But my vegan friend and I would often search out new vegetarian restaurants of different ethnic groups where it’s more common for a vegetarian diet. Indian and various Asian restaurants have some really delicious vegetarian food.
And from there it’s a half step away from vegan. Plus, they understand the ethical concerns for vegans and I’d be far more inclined to take a vegetarian waiter’s word for it that a given dish can also be made vegan.
@Dutchess
I have certainly made a meal put of a baked potato at home but I certainly wouldn’t want to pay restaurant prices for a usually far inferior restaurant baked potato.
I don’t know how often you’ve been able to find a decent baked potato at a restaurant but I’ve basically given up on the endeavor (when ordering it as a side) because they have invariably been sitting way too long from when first cooked. That just wreaks havoc on both the texture and taste of baked potatoes.
They cannot be cooked to order like pasta or rice because no one wants to wait an hour for it to bake. And a microwave potato is not baked. It’s microwaved. Totally different.
Perhaps my standards for a proper bakes potato are too high but I want one that’s light and fluffy rather than sitting in tinfoil for hours or all dried up from being too long in the oven.
As I said, I’ve given up trying to get a decent bakes potato in any restaurant. I’ll opt for mashed or fried instead.
But when I’m paying to eat out, a potato just doesn’t cut it as a meal for me. And i think most people would feel the same.
And when two people with different dietary styles are dining out anywhere it’s FAR FAR EASIER for a non-vegan (or non-kosher) person to find a multitude of delicious options in a restaurant which is either vegan or kosher than it is for a vegan to find really satisfying and delicious choices in a standard restaurant.
Of course, any restaurant can always steam some veggies but who wants to be relegated to that as the primary alternative?
Trust me when I say that vegans have any number of delicious sauces and other additions to totally transform bland steamed veggies.
Any meat eater can more than survive a meatless meal when it’s prepared as deliciously as most successful vegetarian restaurants, especially if it’s also Indian or Chinese. They literally can’t afford to serve bland tasteless vegetarian fare or they’ll go out of business.
I always looked at it like an adventure and an opportunity to try something new.