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talljasperman's avatar

In Ferguson will there be a wrongful death lawsuit?

Asked by talljasperman (21919points) November 25th, 2014

like what happened in the OJ Simpson trial?

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talljasperman's avatar

Civil court lawsuit against the police department.

ibstubro's avatar

Based on what? This or the popular misconception that a white cop gunned an innocent black boy down in cold blood.

Likely there will be a suit, IMO, followed by more rioting when that suit is lost.

Do you think there will be an ‘inciting a riot’ charge against Micheal Brown’s step father for saying, upon hearing the Grand Jury results, ”Burn this down!”?

talljasperman's avatar

I don’t know. I just want the rioting to end. I stopped watching CNN. I want some new news. Possibly good news.

ibstubro's avatar

That you stopped watching CNN is good news, @talljasperman. Watching CNN adds to your reluctance to leave your home.

News, at it’s proper best, should be informative rather than entertaining and it’s not cost effective to do that on a 24/7 basis.

zenvelo's avatar

@ibstubro You seem to be pro police gunning down unarmed people who were not doing anything wrong before the policeman started harassing them. And then he shot the kid. Or do you merely believe his changing story that was over cross examined? And the police friendly prosecutor who defended the policemen in front of the Grand Jury?

To answer the question, a wrongful death suit is very much a possibility after the Justice Department finishes its investigation.

josie's avatar

Maybe. Perhaps anything to make an unruly mob go home.

ibstubro's avatar

@zenvelo, you need a credible source.

Counter my link?

I’m open. Prove me wrong with a mainstream, credible news source?

Winter_Pariah's avatar

Probably, despite the pointlessness of it all. Every bit of evidence I ever read up on seems to indicate that Michael Brown was nowhere close to being as innocent as the media portrayed him to be. And I find it thoroughly amusing that one of the cases which the police officer hardly could have been said to have jumped the gun in using deadly force gets more attention than the cases where a 12 year old boy with a pellet gun was gunned down, a hysterical unarmed Korean woman was gunned down, an elderly lady who was hard of hearing and frightened by the police banging away on her door was gunned down all because the cop’s skin color is white and Michael Brown’s skin color is black.

Humans are such funny creatures, screw watching Jerry Springer, I’ll just watch the news!

Buttonstc's avatar

@zenvelo

You wrote: “unarmed people who were not doing anything wrong prior to the policeman harrassing them”

That was true in the case of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman, but NOT necessarily true here. Trayvon truly was doing nothing wrong but merely walking back to his

The cop was responding to a call about a store robbery just minutes earlier. Michael had a “handful of Cigarillos” according to the officer (it was reported that cigars were the robbed item)

His (Michael) OWN FRIEND (Dorian Johnson) who was with him at the store confirmed the robbery and his involvement.

In addition, there is a video tape (even tho some say it’s not him.)

Now, let me be clear. I’m not saying that anyone deserves death for robbing cigars from a store, so let’s get that straight.

Michael was NOT an innocent just minding his own business (you’re confusing him with Trayvon Martin). The officer had more than enough probable cause to question him walking down the street with a handful of cigars after a robbery report of same.

Or are you going to say that was just an odd “coincidence” and the officer had no business asking him any questions because Michael was “doing nothing wrong” ?

Did you see the interview that was done with the policeman by George Stephanopoulos on Nightline?

Presumably this is also what he told the Grand Jury. I would be interested in your impression of it

zenvelo's avatar

@Buttonstc It has been shown over and over that Wilson did not approach Brown as a robbery suspect; all of that was presented after the fact. Wilson did not behave in the manner of a policeman approaching a robbery suspect, he approached him as wanting him to not walk in the street.

The robbery issue is a distraction used to justify the killing.

Buttonstc's avatar

Well, I think I’ve made it quite clear that I don’t believe that robbery justifies the death penalty, so that was not my point.

And the officer did say that had he not called attention to himself by walking in the street rather than the sidewalk , that it’s unlikely that he (Wilson) would have necessarily noticed the handful of Cigarillos and just passed him by. Those are his own words from the interview I just cited (not my interpretation).

Obviously, once he saw the handful of cigars (certainly not a typical thing) he connected it with the robbery report that had just come over the radio.

My primary point was that it’s really disingenuous to present this guy as the equivalent of Trayvon Martin. Trayvon was a total innocent walking home in the rain wearing a hoodie.

You’re trying to portray Michael Brown as this total innocent who was “not doing anything wrong” prior to the police harrassing him.

That just doesn’t square with the facts since Brown was very much doing something wrong IMMEDIATELY prior to his encounter with the police and calling attention to himself by walking in the street (normally reserved for cars) with the “fruits of his labor” boldly displayed in his hand.

(Heres a free hint to stupid robbers: if you don’t want to catch the attention of the police immediately after the robbery, at least have the common sense to put the evidence out of sight in your pockets or somewhere. People don’t normally walk around with a fistful of cigars. It tends to get you noticed and even more so if you’re walking in the street rather than the sidewalk like normal folk. If you’ve just robbed someone it’s far wiser for you to be as inconspicuous as possible rather than giving them any reason at all to notice you. That’s sort of Basic Criminality 101, which even a boring non-criminal type like myself would be able to figure out.)

Brown is definitely NOT the equivalent of Trayvon Martin and glossing over his imediately prior robbery is ignoring pertinent facts and being intellectually dishonest.

The reason I asked if you had seen the Nightline interview is because I perceived a significant difference between this officer and George Zimmerman as he was being questioned thoroughly by Stephanopolous and it caught my attention.

Again, I’m not saying that every robber should be summarily gunned down in the street but this case is not as cut and dried as that. That’s all.

ibstubro's avatar

Personally, after reading links provided in my Obama question, I think the give and take between @zenvelo and @Buttonstc on this question proves that Wilson should have been indicted.

It’s SOP and there is certainly a huge difference in the versions of the story presented. Looks to me like there should be a trial. Federal level appears to still be possible.

Buttonstc's avatar

I wouldn’t have a problem with that because in a court of law it’s facts that carry the day, not public opinion or perception.

Altho Zimmerman managed to get away with it in spite of that so I am still a bit conflicted about that.

But as I pointed out, Brown is a far cry from Trayvon Martin and all the times that I hear that parallel cited, it really makes me uncomfortable hearing that.

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