Je suis Charlie. Are you?

I do. I saw the murders reported in TV and it was horrible. I’m not French but I feel sorry for the victims of the murders.

Damned idiot terrorists. Do they think there is one iota of additional support for their position now?

I agree with Howard Dean that it’s not so useful to call them ‘Muslim Terrorists’ because most Muslims would never do something like that.

Go after the group and go after the people who armed the bastards.

Oui. Moi aussi.

In recent months, we have seen a Canadian soldier slaughtered at random, an attack on an Australian cafe, a car in France intentionally run into people while the driver screamed “Allahu Akbar”, and now the murder of journalists who dared to criticise. It’s time we looked at the data and drew the correlation. Oh and in 2014 Norway ramped up deportations of illegal immigrants and criminals, primarily from Islamic countries. Their violent crime rate dropped 31% in the same period. Yeah, I’m with Charlie.

I guess I’m the only person on Fluther who can’t read French. Good thing this question wasn’t written in Finnish (because Finnish isn’t allowed here.)~

I don’t read French either, or Finnish, or Macedonian.

@jonsblond I am hoping the q won’t get modded as it is the phrase being used to show that you are sympathetic towards the journalists who got killed for drawing and writing. They wrote satirical stuff about everything (not just Islam). The Je suis Charlie just means I am Charlie (ie these crimes against Charlie Hebdo magazine are crimes are against me). I am horrified by all senseless killing like this but I feel that this crime in particular is a huge blow to freedom of speech and freedom of the press.

@Stinley I’m sure your Q is safe. Thanks for the translation.

@jonsblond “Je suis Charlie” literally means “I am Charlie”.

Je ne suis pas Charlie. (I am not Charlie.)

Obviously, I abhor the murder of their employees, and obviously I think cartoonists should be free to do the work they want to do, but I don’t in any way identify myself with Charlie or the kind of content they publish. Elsewhere on Fluther, I’ve seen them compared with The Onion – that is not the kind of satire they publish. I don’t know of any American equivalent of what they do.

Here is a recent opinion piece that goes into a bit more detail. The phrase “tasteless and obscene” turns up a few times. You can find many more by Googling “Je ne suis pas Charlie”. Not everyone is a lemming.

They have frequently been branded borderline racist & I don’t feel any sense of identity with them at all. Tragic circumstances & terrible for their families, but that’s as far as it goes for me.

@dappled_leaves “tasteless and obscene.” Would South Park work as an American equivalent?

@jonsblond It really wouldn’t.

What was she wearing?

But of course! 100%!

@dappled_leaves I don’t think that people are being lemmings by using the slogan or by showing their outrage at this. I thought quite long and hard before posting this question and coming to the conclusion that je suis Charlie.

The point for me is not that I find their work funny or witty or clever but that they felt that it was important to poke this kind of tasteless and obscene humour at authority figures from the state or religion and I strongly defend their right to do this without fear of harm. Equally I also believe that if people are offended by them then they absolutely have the right to protest and confront the journalists of Charlie Hebdo.

By saying Je suis Charlie you are not saying that you like what they did. Instead you are defending their right to say it.

@zenvelo well said.

I am of French ancestry, so yeah, this one is personal.

Je suis Charlie.

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/news/charlie-hebdo-asterix-creator-albert-uderzo-comes-out-of-retirement-to-draw-je-suis-charlie-cartoon-9968835.html

^^ That, I like, Asterix is way too cool for school…love the little fella.

je ne suis pas charlie

Moi non plus.

Je suis Charlie. Soy Charlie. Ich bin Charlie. Wir sind Charlie. Som Charlie. Sono Charlie.

@Stinley “By saying Je suis Charlie you are not saying that you like what they did. Instead you are defending their right to say it.”

No. By saying “I defend their right to say it”, I defend their right to say it.

By saying “Je suis Charlie”, I would be – literally – identifying with what they do, which I do not.

To think that someone—anyone—could be murdered in cold blood for their drawings or writings or sayings—no matter how offensive and crude—is appalling. Je suis Charlie.

@BlackSwanEffect, I don’t believe the Australian incident was terrorism. More like a man with mental problems and a beef with the authorities who decided to jump on the ISIS bandwagon. The last I read the Australian government has not yet declared the event an act of terrorism which is holding up insurance claims for retailers.

JE SUIS AHMAD!

Before some folks get too worked up over a bigoted cartoonist who under the guise of “free speech” deliberately offend God fearing Jews, Christians and Muslims, know that the police officer who was assigned to protect Hebdo, who was also shot and killed by these hell-bound terrorists, was a Muslim!
An officer who despite his personal feelings choose to live within the rule of law, while at the same time upholding it. Not to mention that Officer Ahmad gave up his life protecting Hebdo’s right to free speech.
So yeah… before Charlie, I’d have to say that Je Suis Ahmad se soir!

@Bagardbilla I thought his death was appalling. I felt terrible for the way in which he was killed—holding his hands up, lying there wounded. It just goes to show that this whole thing was not about religion, but about hatred.

@marinelife, yes, his and all others, despite their beliefs or profession. May their loved ones’ burden be lightened.

@Earthbound_Misfit Islamic extremism is a mental disorder, and he was inspired by terrorist ideology. Extremists also want to establish Sharia Law, so of course they don’t respect the authorities. I don’t see the distinction.