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Have anyone ever experienced these sensations while extremely sleep-deprived (or with drugs)?

Asked by hominid (7357points) January 29th, 2015

I have a couple of health conditions that severely-limit the amount of sleep I get. There are some good times and there are some bad times. When things get bad, they get pretty bad, and I have noticed some patterns. The effects I experience from extreme sleep-deprivation are many. But here are a couple. I’m wondering if anyone has had similar experiences, and I wonder if there are explanations (how the brain works and what happens to it without sleep for extended periods of time).

There are a couple of things that happen sometimes:

1. Everything appears without meaning. This is really difficult to explain, and there are a couple of layers to it, but I’ll try.

While walking across the parking lot, lines appear as swaths of color – they don’t appear as indicators of where to park. The large building in front of me appears as just more light and color, and is completely lacking in context. Ok, this is actually more challenging to describe than I imagined. It takes a virtual shake of the head and conscious effort to start assembling what I am seeing into the conceptual models that they are. And when it comes back, it isn’t always at once. Rather, it starts off as distinguishing objects from other objects, then intuiting purpose, and finally recalling personal associations (memories, preferences, etc). The final stage may not appear for some time after. My description of this whole process seems to completely miss the whole experience – what it feels like, but I guess my inability to express myself in writing isn’t helping.

2. The second, more troubling experience:

I may be out and have a thought of my children, which fills me with warmth. But I am struck by how my cold, lonely surroundings provide no evidence of anything other than what I am currently experiencing. Thoughts of my life appear in consciousness, but I struggle to try to determine if these thoughts accurately reflect my “life” (my past experiences, my “current” relationships, etc). I am struck by the thought of what it’s like to dream. In fact it feels almost indistinguishable from a dream.

When I dream, I will have a thought such as: “Hmm, since I have gone to school for fixing cars, I should be able to diagnose this sound my car is producing”. The dream doesn’t require that I have a real-time experience of going to auto school. All that is needed is the thought to appear that I have. In my dream, my past is experienced in the present moment as thoughts, memories, emotions, etc.

And even the events that happen in dreams. There are times where the first moments after waking from a dream, there is a bit of confusion concerning what is real and isn’t. Did I just get back from Ireland or not. Wait, if I did get back from Ireland, that also means that I just accepted that job making whiskey, etc. But fairly quickly, we’re able to assess fairly quickly that that whole concept of being a whiskey manufacturer setting up a distillery in Ireland and being single is not real. This experience of trying to distinguish if my rich, vivid memories of my life are real or imagined is most similar to what I’m describing. And there’s something very upsetting during this moment, and all I want to do is find a connection to what I think is real – my beautiful family.

Has anyone experienced anything similar to this.

Note: Seriously, I’m not crazy or anything. No need to call 911.

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Mariah's avatar

I had a slightly difficult time understanding 2, but I think I get you on 1. And I think I’ve experienced similar when extremely ill.

I don’t know if it’s the medication I needed to take when ill or if it was just the severity of my sickness itself but I was very mentally affected during my worst bouts of illness. I recall needing to concentrate very hard just to hold a normal conversation.

In particular, I remember this one event. I was doing some math with a friend and I had punched some numbers into a calculator and he wanted me to read back the result to him. I was shocked by how difficult this was. I don’t know if I was having a hard time connecting the numeral to the word it represented, or what. I remember getting very anxious that he would think I had lost it.

rojo's avatar

When I read your first example I was struck by how it sounded like something I read in “Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain”.

As I recall, what sometimes prevents us from drawing well is the rational way of thinking, that is, the mindset that we use in our daily lives. The example given was about attempting to draw a chair and the brain saying that because it knows what a chair is and what it looks like we have a mental blueprint so we don’t need to observe it and draw what what we are actually seeing we can just draw from our prior knowledge. It was a long time ago but there was something about by not drawing the actual object (or person) but drawing the negative spaces around it or contained by it we trick the left side of our brain because it cannot name what it is we are drawing so it gives up and allows the more creative right side to attempt the task.

Perhaps the meds or lack of sleep is causing this reality shift. Perhaps the left side gives up the mundane task of day to day existence it usually does because it can no longer understand and so allows the right side takes on duties that it is unfamiliar with. What you are seeing is not wrong just interpreted, or presented, differently.

Evidently the left side is more rational. Some of its characteristics are:

Responds to verbal instructions
Problem solves by logically and sequentially looking at the parts of things
Looks at differences
Is planned and structured
Prefers established, certain information
Prefers talking and writing
Prefers multiple choice tests
Controls feelings
Prefers ranked authority structures
Is a splitter: distinction important
Is logical, sees cause and effect

While the Right side is intuitive. It:

Responds to demonstrated instructions
Problem solves with hunches, looking for patterns and configurations
Looks at similarities
Is fluid and spontaneous
Prefers elusive, uncertain information
Prefers drawing and manipulating objects
Prefers open ended questions
Free with feelings
Prefers collegial authority structures
Is a lumper: connectedness important
Is analogic, sees correspondences, resemblances

ragingloli's avatar

Sleep deprivation has the following effect on me when I am in my human form.
– unable to concentrate
– every little noise becomes extremely irritating and infuriating to the point that one wants to brutally murder the source of the noise.
– losing the will to live, a.k.a. being so tired that death seems like a nice thing

jerv's avatar

I have, as it’s pretty much a constant part of my daily life, moreso in recent months. I would rather not discuss it much beyond that in public though.

longgone's avatar

I can’t relate to your second point, but the first one describes what I’m feeling quite often. There are days when I feel like I don’t wake up at all. Everything is a daze, I can’t get my mind to engage, and I look for distractions constantly. I feel numb, but not calm by any definition. My brain is constantly tapping out rhythms, which my fingers, teeth, or leg tap along with. When I’m out at these times, I don’t notice any detail at all. I see things, but they don’t register much. It does not get as bad as what you’re describing, I think, but I do have to shake myself and actively concentrate so I can function and, for example, cross a road.

No drugs or sleep-deprivation needed, though this does get worse if I haven’t slept much. It also gets worse if I spend too much time in front of screens – and then again, most days, I am fine.

Zaku's avatar

You could get some interesting explanations from Tom Kenyon or shamanic dreaming experts. We dream of the dream world, and those in the dream world dream what we call our physical world, or something like that. When you’re partly asleep and partly conscious, you’re in the betwixt and between. Your tired body and brain’s capacity to track the real world fade out and blur with your subconscious and with dream spirits and so on, and you can hallucinate perceive distorted senses and non-physical things. Your consciousness has a difficult time connecting with your body.

wake_the_winds's avatar

I feel like I’ve had similar things to both of them after not sleeping for like a day and a half, the first one especially, but the second one, and I may be just misunderstanding, seems sort of like normal waxing-philisophical thought.

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