Should children be required to have vaccines before they are allowed to go to Disneyland?

Yes.

And also before the following;
Going to the movies
Going to church
Going to see Santa at the mall at Christmas
Going to a scout meeting
Going to the zoo
Going to beach
Going to pet store
What am I missing?

Going to work. The little bastards should earn their keep and not contaminate the workplace. ~

I think vaccination should simply be required by law.

The infected person child/adult could be from a foreign country. Disney would have a hard time getting proof of vaccination.

People come from all over the world to go to Disneyland. Not all countries require vaccinations. It would be impossible to confirm everyone who enters a Disney park has had vaccinations.

The best thing to do is make sure you and your children are vaccinated. That’s the whole point.

I would never consider not vaccinating my child and I think parents who choose not to are idiots, but I don’t get why people are so aggressive or feel so strongly about children who have not been vaccinated being around vaccinated children at school, parks, etc. Isn’t the whole point of vaccinating your kids not having to worry about other parents not vaccinating theirs? If your kid is vaccinated, they won’t contract whatever the other kid might be carrying.

I don’t care if kids at Disney are vaccinated or not. If my kids are at Disney and they’ve been properly vaccinated, it’s none of my business if the other children are vaccinated or not.

Perhaps I’m missing something.

Government overreach? Loaded question is loaded… but I’m bored, so I’ll bite.

The government has a duty to watch out for the greater good. If there is a danger to society at large, then they have not only the right, but also the responsibility to deal with it. The point of mandatory vaccinations is to keep people from dying needlessly.

While I would like a minimally invasive government myself, I expect the government to protect me from certain preventable dangers and mitigate the unpreventable ones. Terrorist attacks, killer viruses, armed robbers… I expect my tax dollars to be used to help protect me from those. And I don’t want to be put in preventable danger just because some wingnut with a head full of scientifically discredited ideas goes screaming about their right to be a biohazard. If they have that right, then any other US citizen has the right to do less dangerous things like drunk driving as well.

I say that there is enough of a risk to the general public here that government intervention is required, at least so long as we don’t have our act together.

@livelaughlove21 I think you are missing something. Look up “epidemiology”, “contagion”, and “carrier” and you might start to get it. Also, Herd Immunity has a minimum threshold that some areas have dropped below. Measles is highly contagious. If you knew the math on how fast it could spread, I’m pretty sure you’d be more concerned than you are.
Now, if you care only about your own kids and don’t care if other parents lose their children, then I suppose it is none of your business, even if one of your kids served as the carrier that gave that other kid their death sentence… or if one of the unvaccinated kids infects your kid and you find out that your child is one of the few that the vaccines doesn’t immunize. (Yes, vaccinated people can be asymptomatic carriers, or even catch the disease; vaccines are not 100% effective.) Somehow, I get the feeling that you do care though, so that kind of makes it your business.

Yes, and I also agree vaccination by law. Bring in the armed forces, and first set up a 72 hour voluntary vaccination period after which they will find all unvaccinated individuals and vaccinate them using force if required.

Also, stick a red/white umbrella logo on the side of the cars that are being used.

@jerv I care if unvaccinated kids die because their parents are stupid, yes. And I do think vaccination should be required by law for the child’s sake, but since it’s up to the parents in many cases, it’s none of my concern if I were to go to Disney with a vaccinated child with potentially unvaccinated children around. I’ve done what I can to protect my kid, and that’s all I can do short of never letting them leave the house.

I still don’t see the point in feeling so strongly about these unvaccinated kids being around my kids. If I’m going to worry about the vaccination not working on my kid, I’d spend my whole life worrying about things that have a small chance of going wrong. Like those women (some on Fluther included) that seem to see all unknown males as potential rapists, so they do things like avoid going onto elevators with only men – I don’t have time to worry about things that aren’t all that likely to happen. I have enough irrational fears as it is. Bad things sonetimes happen, but it’s usually not worth the energy to get pissed off about it. Maybe I’ll feel differently when I actually have children, but I doubt it.

As it has been stated, kids from other countries go to Disney potentially unvaccinated. Requiring vaccination of American children probably wouldn’t make the place much safer.

I wonder what the impact is to Disney Land park attendance? I ask because you know for a corporation, the bottom line is what they care about. Safety of park guests has a direct effect on their bottom line. So they will declare that their number one concern is the safety of their park guests, but that is because when the park is deemed to be unsafe, for whatever reason (their fault or not), attendance will be down and their bottom line will be affected.

If Disney Land was going to a policy about its guests being vaccinated, it would affect the bottom line in that they’d have to have a policy where proof was required and non-vaccinated turned away. They might even want to have a clinic for guests who are not vaccinated but would be willing to have it done, if that’s what would be required for admittance. Guests not willing would not be able to attend.

The way it is now, people might be avoiding Disney Land because of the potential for getting diseases, which will also have a negative effect on the bottom line. That’s no different than any other public place, except that Disney Land is optional, other public places aren’t.

Someone made a comment on a FB page that what nobody is talking about in the whole vaccination debate is the border issue. People come here illegally and we don’t know what they have or who they are, for that matter. They come from places where medical care is inadequate and if they are here illegally, they’re not looking to go to a public health department to reveal themselves and deal with something they may personally feel is not a priority.

Yes, and all other public places. I realize how difficult it would be to enforce that—and how many people and organizations would be opposed to it—but something drastic must be done to convince public health-enemy vaccine deniers they aren’t welcome in a 21st Century society?

Snow White and the Seven Communicable Diseases.

@livelaughlove21 I understand your point about not being afraid, but I’ve also lived an improbable life and beaten the odds in bad ways, so I guess I am a little more cautious, at least when the stakes are life-or-death. I do do some dangerous things without much care as I understand the odds; it’s not like I’m totally risk-averse. I just don’t tempt fate the way many people do.
It’s not paranoia, it’s math. Paranoia would be keeping my kids home; math is merely understanding the numbers involved and pushing for higher vaccination rates. I feel the way I feel not out of fear, but out of cold, clinical understanding of the numbers and of people. In fact, that is part of why I took an interest in math, notably statistics and probability; to have a deeper understanding of risk.

@Pachy This is one area where I feel segregation is warranted. Let people remain unvaccinated so long as they move/remain elsewhere and have no face-to-face contact with those of us in the 21st-century. They say that history repeats itself, and out history is full of pretty nasty outbreaks.