Are all the kids who are getting measles the kids who weren't vaccinated?

No. I heard that a few had been vaccinated, but the vaccine isn’t 100% effective so they got it anyway.

According to this source “Measles is a terrific vaccine. If you get two doses, it’s predicted to protect 99.99 percent of people for life.”
From same article. There was a vaccine failure at Ohio State. “With the situation in Ohio, what we’ll probably find is that the vaccine protected about 85 percent of the people. So you can see that some people who were vaccinated can acquire the illness — if they’re exposed.”

“With measles and rubella, protection rates of the vaccine are up in the mid- 90s. What drives these outbreaks in the U.S. are children that have been withheld from vaccines.”

So most of them weren’t vaccinated?

@Dutchess_III If I recall correctly, the measles vaccine itself is something like 97–98% effective, add in herd immunity and it goes up but isn’t 100%.

Anyway, it’s not necessarily that that many kids haven’t been vaccinated, it could be that that many people have been exposed (well more of a combination of the two, but I think I made my point).

Yes. Definitely. Working the numbers back from the above source, we can call the “protection rate in the mid-90s” 95%. Using that number you can figure at least 20 unvaccinated cases for every one vaccinated. And the symptoms are less severe if you are vaccinated. Using a number like 98% you can figure the ratio about 50 to 1.

Obviously I have no data and did not run a study but I am willing to bet a lot of people and labs are doing that right now. It will be in the news…. soon….

Like @thorninmud already mentioned, some of the people who came down with measles weren’t vaccinated. 82% to be exact. That means that the other 18% were vaccinated.

@fluthernutter Good find. The 82% number means an unvaccinated person is has 4.5x the chance of getting the disease than a vaccinated person. These numbers are only counts of people who get the disease. The effects of the disease are greatly reduced if the person is vaccinated, too..
I’ll bet the odds of complications and death are greatly reduced as well. The data will clearly show the benefits.

I’ve heard that more pediatricians are asking unvaccinated patients to move to another practice. They do not want to spread the disease to children too young for the vaccine. Parents of young children are threatening to move to practices that only accept vaccinated children.

I asked this question on facebook. Actually, what I asked was if the people who have caught measles during this outbreak are children of parents who are anti-vaccine people. Just quoting how many people were not vaccinated isn’t good enough in my opinion, because infants can’t be vaccinated, some people have legitimate medical reasons they can’t be vaccinated, and older adults might have never been vaccinated, or only vaccinated once. One time vaccine still gives great immunity to most, but does have a higher failure rate than getting the two doses.

I found an article saying over 60% of cases this outbreak are adults. That to me means they are not most likely anti-vaccine people.

I think this outbreak has been overblown by the media and that FDA, WHO, and CDC use these outbreaks to scare people into vaccination and they play it for as long as they can. Don’t get me wrong, I think all children should get a measles vaccine (unless they can’t for medical reasons) because that disease is pretty awful, it is extremely contagious, and the vaccine is a very good one with very little failure rate after the two doses.

I’m not so much annoyed with the government agencies who want to bring awareness. I am annoyed with the media who gives some misinformation and partial information, and annoyed with the screaming from the rooftop haters on social media. So many people think measles was gone and now it’s back. No. It’s not gone. Not even from the US. It is not endemic here anymore. Declared eradicated over ten years ago here. If we closed our borders we would most likely never see a measles case again in America. We don’t have closed borders so almost every year, it might be every, we get some measles cases in America.

There is still tons of measles in the world, and we have tons of people travelling around the world, so we will continue to have outbreaks in America until we eradicate it in more countries. I think a lot of Americans think the rest of the world is like America and almost never sees a measles case. That simply is not true. I think there are still something like a million cases a year in the world. I assume those mostly happen in pockets, in very specific countries with not very good healthcare.

I just read this article that says there are 20 million cases of measles around the world every year, if that is accurate I was off by about 19 million, and the CDC always exepcts some cases in America every year.

Some children can’t get vaccinated due to immunity suppression issues (those going through treatment for cancer for example) or are too young yet for their vaccination. The willful ignorance to neglect getting your healthy child vaccinated when they of the age to do so when it assists in the spread of diseases that result in death and suffering in other children, as well as your own, is beyond irresponsible. You become more than a public menace with the risk you take with other’s lives you have no right to.

I forgot to credit you @JLeslie . sorry.

I didn’t even realize you got the idea from me. I thought we were just thinking similarly.

@cazzie I can’t find a report regarding the recent measles outbreak defining how many cases are people who refused the vaccine.

No, I saw it, and decided to ask here. What struck me when I read it is what an obvious question it was! I’m tickled to know the first person in my wide circle who thought of it!