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Posting you support veterans but actually not, is that false advertisement?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) March 3rd, 2015

There is a restaurant here that says it supports veterans by the sign it has posted by their entrance. There was a camp of homeless veterans on private land about 100 years from the restaurant and hidden much by the trees. The vets did not bother the restaurant or its patrons, yet the restaurant owners has campaigned and complained to the city to the point the city is pressuring the owner (who knew they were there, but did not care because they were not bothering anyone) to toss the vets off. To post a sign saying you support vets as a way to boost business, but wanting to push out homeless vets causing no harm, is that akin to false advertisement or posting a sign under false pretense?

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Mariah's avatar

Very annoyingly, these days in particular “support” just means “I internally believe these people are pretty great and deserve good things but I’m not going to be the person to provide it.” Slacktivism runs rampant. Everyone blogs about how much they support people in such and such group but very few follow through with volunteer work or anything else that is actually real. Hitting “like” on Facebook doesn’t do anything.

JLeslie's avatar

Supporting the troops and veterans is partly a peer pressure sentence at this point. You better not do anything or say anything negative about the people who serve in the military.

It’s also a big right wing thing, although I would say most of America appreciates the sacrifices our military men make. Although, for many it is simply their job. We don’t have a draft like wars in the past.

Even if a person disagrees with the military, they certainly have sympathy for vets who have been injured or are homeless. Just like we have sympathy for almost anyone badly injured or homeless.

It’s possible the restaurant owner does support veterans with money and other ways, just doesn’t want the homeless ones near his restaurant.

zenvelo's avatar

How does one know the homeless in the encampment are vets? It may be a pretty safe assumption, but there is no guarantee.

And saying you “support the vets” does not mean “homeless vets can camp next door”. Most people would interpret it as “I support programs so that vets are not homeless and get teh services they need.”

Strauss's avatar

Even if a person disagrees with the military, they certainly have sympathy for vets who have been injured or are homeless.

Homelessness has been a problem among vets at least since the 1970’s. At that time, there was much disdain for anyone who served for being a part of the “war machine”. There was no popularity for veterans’ programs, and many who served in Vietnam came home so psychologically scarred that it is only recently that some of them have been getting a small measure of the treatment they deserve.

I have been thanked more for my service in the last 10–12 years than I ever was in the 30 years previous. While I am do not judge the sincerity of those who thank me, I question the “trendiness” of it all.And the irony of it is that it was not something I willingly volunteered to do. Surely, the US Navy at the time was “all-volunteer”. What a lot of people today fail to realize, is that many (if not most) of the volunteers did so only to avoid being drafted, so they could have at least some say as where they might end up.

ibstubro's avatar

Source?

How do you know the encampment was vets?
How do you know the squatters were not bothering the restaurant or it’s premises (dumpster, restrooms, etc.)?
How do you know that the owner of the land didn’t mind?

It would be rare indeed if a homeless camp was years yards from a restaurant and not be a nuisance in some way. When I worked at a fast food restaurant in the city, the homeless people would come in and make an unholy mess of the bathrooms. Water, dirt, tissue and paper towels strung all over. If they’d had the courtesy to not leave a disgusting mess, we’d never have cared if they cleaned up in the bathroom – the supplies weren’t coming out of our pockets. And if someone gets hurt in, on or around a dumpster, someone’s insurance is liable.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@ibstubro How do you know the encampment was vets?
Short of them wearing their DD 214s on their sleeves, they could be lying same as anyone. Why? The veteran outreaches know they served, they say so when asked by law enforcement (who knew they were there and basically did not harrase them because of it), the religious outreaches generally know too.

How do you know the squatters were not bothering the restaurant or it’s premises (dumpster, restrooms, etc.)?
From what I observed they never enter the restaurant because they know the owner doesn’t like them. They will not even go there for a meal even though it is really close, they would patronize someone else. The restaurant locks up his dumpsters to keep everyone out, not just the vets.

How do you know that the owner of the land didn’t mind?
One of the vets who knew the owner was told it was cool for them to chill there, and since it was common knowledge they were there, if he did not want them on his land, he was very, very, very slow in asking them to leave.

ibstubro's avatar

No.
@Hypocrisy_Central.

I did not request an exposition on your opinions and bias’.
I want to know the source of the information given in the question. Typically newspaper stories?
Documentation of any kind?

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