How do you feel about the US Supreme Court's ruling in favor of marriage equality?
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I can’t help but wonder how much taxpayer money Conservatives will waste trying to get this overturned.
Justice – 1, Bigotry – 0.
Kudos to the five Supremes.
Let’s see, No impact.
No party and no wake.
I don’t own any rainbow clothes.
I have a lot of friends who are gay, so it impacts me in that I share in their happiness.
No big celebrating here, just a smile in my heart.
I don’t own any rainbow attire either.
@Jaxk Going to surprise ya and totally agree with ya on this one.
I just hope the fanatic religious right ,can just let this be now, but some how I doubt it.
Good for gay people who want to get married.
Bad for churches, and the sovereign states.
Bad for what used to be a debate that represented gradual social revolution (that was clearly favoring gay marriage) and is now a permanent and irreconcilable line of division between two points of view. The argument for or against won’t go away. It will simply cause two separate civilizations to evolve instead of just one.
Irrelevant to me. I’m not gay, nor a church goer. I think the States are a pretty good buffer against the rapid spread of a Federal Bad Idea, but in the end I am still an individualist, so I’m good.
I think it’s important to recognize that persistent grass roots efforts can be effective.
I saw on the news last night that a Seattle neighborhood that has a high concentration of gay residents, and always hosts an annual gay pride parade, recently painted 14 crosswalks in rainbow colors for the upcoming parade. City officials intend to make them permanent. The courts decision should make this year’s parade extra-special.
The decision is late to the game, as the Gay marriage train was already well on its way out of the station. It’s already legal in 37 states. Even Rush and Rove had recognized the writing on the wall. Our country stumbles and bumbles along, meandering more or less in the right direction (at least on most social issues).
Good ruling that should have been settled long ago.
@jerv “I can’t help but wonder how much taxpayer money Conservatives will waste trying to get this overturned.”
There is no judicial, legislative or executive avenue to overturn a Supreme Court ruling. This is final.
@josie *“Bad for churches, and the sovereign states.
Bad for what used to be a debate that represented gradual social revolution (that was clearly favoring gay marriage) and is now a permanent and irreconcilable line of division between two points of view. The argument for or against won’t go away. It will simply cause two separate civilizations to evolve instead of just one.”*
Yeah, I’m sure people thought the same thing after Loving v Virginia.
@Darth_Algar
I am sure they also felt the same after the Emancipation proclamation too.. I never said the sovereign states were infallible. Some of them still have the death penalty, which when improperly used, is the ultimate and irredeemable fuck up. And certainly the Federal government has intervened when the states were misbehaving.
But every time the SC makes a decision that takes away power from a state,, no matter what the cause involved, it shifts more power away from you and your neighbors or the members of a church, and into a soul less and distant bureaucracy which is indifferent to your cause, but loves the job and the perks. I suppose we all pick our poison.
It’s hard to remember that ‘civil union’ was the buzz phrase just a few years ago. Things can sure change fast once the momentum gets going.
I saw an interview of two guys who had been together for 52 years. In 2000, fearing the lack of legal benefits in old age that family members and married couples have, they legally adopted each other. I had never heard of such a thing. A couple years ago, they had the adoptions annulled, and were married in their home state.
How do I feel about the ruling? YESSSSS!
Does it have any personal impact? Directly, no, because I have zero interest in every getting married. However, it does have an indirect impact because it is yet another critical step forward toward full equality & full civil rights protections for the entire LGBT community. At the same time, it moves us even further away from the separate-but-equal ruling laid down in Plessy v Ferguson in the late 19th century.
How will I celebrate? In part by adding my two cents worth here. Also, my favorite Pizza Hut begins baking in 17 minutes. ‘nuff said.
Will I wear any rainbow attire? Maybe not the entire flag’s colors. Otherwise, certainly.
@SQUEEKY2 – It is unlikely that this will be the end of the issue. The far left has gained way too much political ground out of this issue to let it go. Roe v Wade was settled law more than 40 years ago and it is still a wedge issue today. The far left has way too much invested to let it go and the cries of Bigot, Racist, Homophobe, Islamophobe, are their bread and butter slogans. They need wedge issues and this has been a good one for them.
@Jaxk
The only ones making a wedge issue of Roe v Wade to this day are the religious right. I’m sure you’re actually aware of that somewhere deep down in your cranium, but I’m equally certain that you’ll never allow yourself to admit it.
@Jaxk Looking at the rest of the world, I would say that the Far Right made so many gains for so long that it’s more like swinging back to the center.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; when you’re far enough to the right, everyone is to your left.
“the far left”
You do not even know what that means.
@josie
I do love the notion that extending Constitutionally guaranteed rights is somehow taking power from me. Though if you mean the power to decide who of my neighbors get what rights, then yes, I suppose they are talking power from me. Rest easy though, since this means that I don’t get to decide that you don’t have Constitutional rights.
@jaxk the struggle for gay rights hasn’t been a “far” left issue since the 50s. It’s important to recognize that the country is indeed moving left on social issues, but it is mainstream conservatism which has left the map, and finds itself increasingly isolated from everyone but old white men. You do yourself a disservice when you label folks like Obama “extreme liberals.” Believe me, when the opposite of nut case Republicans ever does appear on the scene, you will drastically appreciate your error.
But hey, if you think that the continued fight for civil rights and counter racism and general bigotry is somehow a “far left” issue, then that says alot about you. And nothing flattering.
And those wedge issues are indeed good for the left, because in the end, we on the left invariably win them all. It’s called progress.
It doesn’t say anything about marriage in the Constitution. Which means it is covered by the 10th amendment.
But never mind. Like I said. It’s good for gays who want to get married. And I am indifferent to that issue anyway.
I’ll let you know when something really matters to me.
It does not explicitly mention marriage in the Constitution, no. However, since marriage is, and long has been, a civil right in this country then the 14th Amendment guarantees that right to all.
I’m happy it went the way it did, and sad that it was only a 5–4 decision.
It doesn’t directly impact me, but it impacts my country and community and friends, and hopefully puts away the discussion and moves us in the direction of acceptance and tolerance, and away from the still current situation where many gay and queer people are rightly concerned that if their sexuality is known, they’ll be discriminated against or even disowned, attacked or killed.
I don’t know of any parties about it. I don’t have anything in rainbow.
I think it is outstanding! I’m going to go out right now and marry as many fellas as I can.
sorry @jonsblond
It’s kind of sad it was 5–4. Four justices voted against equality? Jon may be on to something. It doubles your odds of scoring on any given night.
Oh my….redacted… I can only pray for this nation now…
How do you feel about the US Supreme Court’s ruling in favor of marriage equality? Elated. It took too long in my opinion, but that is often the case when it comes to change where humans are involved. I’m just thankful that it finally happened in my lifetime.
Does this decision have any impact on you? Yes, it proves that my stance on the subject is right. :)
If you think you’ll be celebrating this ruling, how do you think you’ll do it? I just got off the phone with a cousin. She is an American who resides in Australia with her partner. They were married last month in Hawaii. It was illegal to marry in AU and her home state due to laws against same-sex marriage. The timing of the passing of this law is ideal. Tomorrow the couple is celebrating their union in Ohio with a luau. While I may not be there in person, I will be in spirit. What is even better is that my 92 year-old aunt is hosting it.
Good. As far as I’m concerned this should have stopped being an issue years ago. That we’re only getting this far now is what frightens me.
I’m extremely happy about it.
My niece and her girlfriend got engaged at my house and I’m going to marry them in the fall.
I registered to become an interdenominational minister today. Seemed like the perfect day to do it.
I kinda feel like the most important thing the President does is nominate judges for the SCOTUS.
As for the ruling… Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Yay!!!! I’m proud of these judges for doing what they did. The decision does not impact me directly, but I’m smiling, thinking of all the people it does have an impact on.
I’m celebrating by watching an extra episode of Community. Any excuse will do, and this is a good one.
@Darth_Algar How’s that praying thing been working out for you so far?
Personally it works great for me. I guess the best thing out of this is I might see the return of the King before I die, and that would be awesome.
No, he means the reestablishment of the supremacy of British Monarchy over the colonies.
^ LOL no, and no, but that is expected.
I feel like this.
It’s just a start, of course – it’s still legal in 29 states (including my own) to be fired for being gay. And, of course, in my state there’s this.
@josie At the heart of the matter is how far Tenth Amendment protections go. Before this ruling, it was possible to have a same-sex marriage in one state not be recognized by other states. The feds do have a vested interest in one’s marital status though, so it makes sense for them to want uniform treatment of all married couples regardless of the genders of the spouses. And since the majority of Americans support same-sex marriage, can you really blame them for following the collective will of the people?
As for two separate civilizations evolving instead of one, I would counter that we’ve had that going on for at least 150 years already, and it’s pretty much along the same lines today as it was back in 1861.
It’s good. People have a right to legalize their common shareholdings and provide rights that are normally granted only to family members to those whom they love, including insuring them through their corporate health plans. It’s good for all of us as a society. Besides, it’s a hostile world out there and we don’t need to be adding to the discord by enforcing laws based on nothing more than taboo. And we really need to keep out of other people’s private lives in those areas that in no way can negatively affect us.
@Hypocrisy_Central
You don’t really need to pray for that. You could rent that movie any time you want.
Happy for them. I own rainbow suspenders.
Good. I feel good about it. The kiss I give my wife when she comes home will have more significance today.
Well, it’s about damn time !
Should have happened years and years ago. Nuff said.
@Darth_Algar You don’t really need to pray for that. You could rent that movie any time you want.
I am praying this nations doesn’t tank like Rome, and I pray mercy on those Justices (at least 5) that in quick succession of the next decade they don’t get taken out by health reason or freak accidents. If that were a video it would not be a pretty one.
@Hypocrisy_Central
If you really want the law to be based on religion then why are you living in a nation that is, by its founding law, secular? There’s a few theocratic nations you could move to.
Rome “tanked” after adopting christianity as its state religion.
FYI
I’m happy for the gay community. It’s been a long time coming. People who talk about how much better life was in the 50s and 60s probably weren’t gay then.
I’m sure it will impact me somehow – in a butterfly effecty sort of way.
Think I’ll celebrate with a little Billy Ocean – Caribbean Queen.
Gonna say no thanks on the rainbow attire.
@Darth_Algar If you really want the law to be based on religion then why are you living in a nation that is, by its founding law, secular?
No, this nation was founded on Godly principals…....then Satan took over.
(Your turn to quip, ya can’t rocket to the next mansion you don’t get chunks of lurve to help you out.)
No, this nation was founded on freedom. I’m thinking Darth is here. Satan didn’t take over, jerkwads tried to take over, and they got slapped down. Constituition one, jerkwads zero.
The Jerkwads were the five on the Supreme Court that handed the decision, and yes, they won in the Justice chambers but they are zeros, I certainly have to pray for them…..
So someone that’s not in agreement with you doesn’t deserve legal protection of the constitution. Shakes head, laughs, and walks away. Screw it.
__“the Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion”__
1797, Treaty of Tripoli
@Hypocrisy_Central “No, this nation was founded on Godly principals…....then Satan took over.”
Right, hence the separation clause in the 1st Amendment.
”(Your turn to quip, ya can’t rocket to the next mansion you don’t get chunks of lurve to help you out.)”
What in the goddamned blue fuck are you even rambling about here?
Yeah, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ”
sounds a bit different than
” Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.”
(Deuteronomy 13:13–19 NLT)”
godly principles… HA!
^ If you do not believe
2 Tim 3:16
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
Then anything you use from the Bible is utterly useless, and i might add rather foolish, if it is a lie, why use it to say a God you don’t believe exist is a lie? That is closer to nuttiness than I care to think.,
and again you say nothing of value or relevance.
I just had another thought…at least five friends have been in an open monogamous homosexual relationship for 10+ years while living in a US state where same-sex marriage was prohibited. Now they too will be privy to the bombardment of the question, “So…when are you two getting married?” Welcome to the club my friends.
^^ When one tries to use what they think is fiction to expose what they think of is a lie, they are even less than relevant or credible.
^^ no, that’s actually kinda how you expose the lie. you point out the fiction.
next mansion level here i come.
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