Is Trump blaming illegal Mexican immigrants for the Great Recession of 2008?
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@Here2_4 I’m asking the question because I don’t have it. You, if you are his follower can answer it.
I am not his follower. I haven’t seen most of what people have claimed he has said and done. Maybe if I was a follower, I would have. I will see what I can find. I remember seeing an interview where he talks about hard working immigrants, and his employees, and about some immigrants who are trouble. I will see if I can find some of the stuff I have been wondering about myself.
See ya when I have something.
@Here2_4 “Maybe if I was a follower, I would have.”
What do you call the people who are informed about the horrid things he says, are disgusted by the kinds of things he believes and says, who speak out against him etc.? They’re not his followers.
I don’t know. I am neither his follower, nor his… whatever that other choice is you’ve described. I have not been naysaying the man, because I have seen too little of his coverage to choose. I hear lots of loud voices, but so? I hear loud voices every time there is an election, and half of them are emanating from between butt cheeks.
I’m looking into it.
Lots of things are not caused by illegal immigrants, according to Trump, but only good things. He admitted that not all Mexicans are bad, but did not attribute any good qualities or accomplishments to them. He is an orange windbag, and I sincerely wish the media would stop catering to his need for attention at any cost.
At first I thought Trump a pompous windbag. Now that I have viewed several minutes of his interviews, I feel differently. He doesn’t seem to have anything against immigrants, per se, and has apparently even helped some illegals achieve citizenship through legal channels. His issue is, from what I can tell, with intentional foreign “cast offs”. I find myself liking him. He is the portrait of an American. He is self made. proud of his accomplishments, and outspoken. He makes no apologies, rather clarifications when people misquote him. I watched as Anderson Cooper tried to twist around his words right during an interview with him. Trump stuck to his guns, and made his point more clear.
I get the impression he has a real, solid, working knowledge of foreign affairs, foreign economy, and several important foreign contacts. What the F_ _ _ do Americans want? I want someone with a feel for real people, world reality, a strong knowledge of how to build and advance, someone who has seen through the eyes of both the haves, and the have nots.
I don’t agree with him on all points, but I haven’t agreed fully with anyone I have voted for, or even anyone I have lived with. After listening to him, I am in his corner.
Would I campaign for him? No; at least not yet. Things have a long ways to go before I feel that way about any candidate.
Trump self made? LO-motherfucking-L.
He inherited his daddy’s business and millions and has made a career of promoting himself while running his companies into bankruptcy several times (which, of course, other people foot the bill for).
@Darth_Algar , I am open to any legitimate input anyone has to offer, but as I have already stated, I am only just learning about this Trump guy. There was no cause to be so m- effing m- effy about it. People say many unsupported things about those in the public eye. If you have some material which helps us (me) sort out all this banter and bashing, then please, share with us all.
Who cares?
Trump has no message or agenda. He got into it for the thrills, and when the Tea Party started making his poll numbers look legit, he [his advisers] thought he might make a real run.
Discount Trump. Who cares! That is his ultimate insult. Being ignored.
I care. If it can’t be proved to me that someone else, specific and legit is a better candidate, I will vote for him. Does anyone have some real documentation for me?
You’ve been Trumped (sorry I can’t find a free version) is an illustration about why Trump should not be President.
@Here2_4
As a voter it’s your job to educate yourself about the candidates. Sure, you can decide “hey, I know nothing about this guy, but he sounds good, so I’ll vote for him unless you convince me to vote for someone else” if you want, but that’s a big part of what’s wrong with this country now – people voting without a real understanding of the candidates or the issues.
It’s your job to be informed, not my job to inform you.I will not spoon-fed you or your voter apathy. I will, however, point you to Project Vote Smart, which is a good starting block tool for that purpose (you’ll see that Trump has yet to take any real stance on any actual issue).
Make no mistake – Donald Trump isn’t truly interested in the presidency. His interest, as always, is in promoting Donald Trump.
I agree, that I must educate myself. I intend to. However, this is a Q&A site, and that’s what gets done here, sharing of information. I’m just saying I hear lots of flap about Trump, but where is the supportive documentation? You might well be a very intelligent person (I’m still waiting for more input on that one too), but just because you said does not convince me of anything. As I have already said, @Darth_Algar , I did look up some interviews, and so far I am interested in what he has to say. If you have a differing opinion, then it is on you to cough up some supportive documentation, or “ssssh”, and let me vote.
@Here2_4
That he inherited his father’s wealth and business is not opinion. It is fact. As is his bankrupting his companies several times. My opinion that he’s a narcissistic, ignorant, bloviating assclown cannot be supported by documentation since it is, of course, no more than a subjective opinion.
He doesn’t realize (or just doesn’t care) that most of the folks with Hispanic names in the Southwestern US have been there from generations. They never crossed the US border…the border crossed them!
Please answer the question @Here2_4 Who caused the recession? Please list the problems that are not caused by Mexican illegal immigrants. Why just pick on one criminal or one group of people, among all of the criminals? You don’t need to research anything for that answer.
I did answer the question. You didn’t ask who caused it, just did Trump blame it on illegal Mexican immigrants. I said he gave no indication to that in anything I viewed. He also specified that when he speaks of illegal immigrants, he does not mean only Mexicans, that immigrants come here illegally from all over the world. You narrowed things quite a lot by specifying Mexican illegal immigrants. It sort of makes me think you have some problem specifically with Mexico, and believe all the immigrant problems the country does have involves only them.
I think lots of people observe the world looking down through an empty paper towel tube. A lot is missed that way. Seems they hear that way too. Perhaps if people switched from mono to stereo they would get a clearer definition of what is said.
I find most people miss hearing nuances, both good and bad, and make judgments without experiencing the full mixture being played out for them. That is why I am not willing to judge at this point. I need to hear much more of the symphony before choosing how enthusiastic should be my applause. So, I shall sit back now, and watch the rest of you hash it over.
8-D
Trump is not a viable candidate, @flo.
Watch Jeb, instead.
Trump’s game might be to make Jeb look like the pussycat Republican.
Those links are hearsay. They can’t be depended upon for accuracy, except in regards to what various people think about Trump, and even that can only be partly trusted. What candidates say is morbidly twisted about in the media. Decades ago, I voted for candidates I later regretted backing, because I listened to the media. SNL and talk show hosts have a more accurate accounting than the media quite often.
You are doing the same as the media, lumping all illegal immigrants into a blanket scenario for his statements. As can be seen in the clip I provided, Trump says there are illegal immigrants from everywhere. In regards to those from Mexico, some are probably very good people. It is the ones pushed out by the government who present the big problem. I already said that, and supported it with live interview. Now, if you want to get all het up about what Hispanics think about Trump and the boarder, don’t take second hand accounts of that for fact either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdcUSEXReng
In this this clip, he says Mexico is taking our jobs. That means the government, not the citizens, the people he refers to as Mexicans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVYO8dtPJhM
This too, he stresses that he is referring to illegal immigrants meaning coming from around the globe, and so breaches on the boarder with Mexico is not just by Mexicans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r9MhJv8TYQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUOAYninaWk
And this full length speech just because.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0UMsNUEZuI
In summation, I think you support Trump, and just wanted us to do this research to make us convince ourselves. I looked into these clips feeling Trump was bs. Now I believe he is for real. People should quit making choices based on what media says.
Trump is not really a Republican. He is a Democrat mole. Anderson Cooper accused him of that in the first link I provided. I believed it back when he was making those bizarre accusations about Obama’s birth. He had to have done it so Obama could acquiesce, and show proof to naysayers, instead of offering proof without having an individual to make an accusation directly.
I’m done. Someone else can take up the discussion from here.
Oh! I see your point. If someone says something negative about anyone at all from another country, that makes them racist, even if they were talking about just one or two people. I thought racist meant someone who prejudges anyone, everyone based on their genetics. Never mind that Trump married an immigrant. Since we make assumptions here, rather than looking for the true meaning of what someone said, shall we assume he feels ashamed to have married an immigrant woman?
Is Trump marring an immigrant (European, mind you, and still white and a far cry from Mexican) suppose to prove that he isn’t or can’t possibly be a boorish, offensive, prejudiced, possibly racist, ass?
^^^^ No, he has plenty of other ways to prove it.
@Here2_4 You’re on his team no matter what. That article in my response to you is “hearsay” according to you, but you don’t point at why you think so.
Again why the need to just focus on immigrants legal or not? Why not address the people who make the demand for drugs (could it be mostly the filthy rich?) ) responsible as well?
I suppose you have a comeback for that too.
@Here2_4
What ways would that be? Oh, lemme guess – he hires immigrants, right?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hearsay
A fifth grader gets what hearsay means. It is someone else’s account of what someone has said. With public speeches, anyone telling of what was said, other than the speaker, is relating an opinion accounting, and it cannot be trusted as correct.
If I can’t witness for myself what a candidate has said, the only thing I can trust for certain, is that I will consequently hear at least two opinions of what was said/meant.
@Here2_4
Sounds like you’ve formed this image in your head of Trump (without, to go by some of your posts, actually knowing much about the man) and simply refuse to hear anything that runs contrary to that. That’s unfortunate, but hey, you’re free to be willfully ignorant if you wish.
Also look at “this post to you and @jaytkay
here
If you want to prove your point, post the video clips of what he said, as in here is what he actually said as opposed to what media reported he said.
Who is buying the drugs? See my last post?
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