People who claimed to have been abducted by aliens from space, crazy, delusional, too many drugs, it is plausible, what is your take?
Over the years it has been reported that more than 2.8 million people have claimed to have been abducted by extraterrestrials. Factor in those in the so-called third world who might have never been interviewed the number could go higher. Seeing that there are more than Septendecillion, Tredecillion, trillion stars in the known universe, it is highly plausible that out there on some other planet the ”Magic Moment” happened where the lighting struck the primordial ooze spawning life, or it happened some other way. If said ”Magic Moment” happened a Centillion billion years before the ”Magic Moment” happened here, it is also plausible that their advancement to ours is equivalent to our advancement over a garden slug. With that, anyone out there could have the technology to span those great distances without taking 9 years just to get to Pluto, but maybe equal to months or a few Earth years. In like manner, how our explorers here on Earth would tagged-and-released, or took samples, anyone out there could do likewise. With that fact are all those people who claimed to have a close encounter of the 3rd kind or even less than that, delusional, mental, taken too many drugs, or just straight out lying, where do you stand?
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It isn’t that life on other planets is not possible, or that it is not likely. I would bet that life is one of the common facts in the many laws of nature that we can observe and understand.
It is the strange sameness of the claims that people in different times and places make that they have been abducted and had stuff stuck up their asshole or vagina or something. This means something, although I do not know exactly what. But, whatever it is, it says more about the abductee, than the supposed alien abductor.
Plus, I am not buying the notion that advanced alien life forms would look at us as if we were garden slugs. We give evidence of willful manipulation of the elements of material reality, such as chemistry and metalurgy. We have cities laid out in patterns that appreciate Euclidean geometry. Our engineering designs give clear evidence of an understanding of the laws of physics.
Whoever they might be, the super developed aliens would understand the implications of that.
Thus, while I would never be surprised if someone finds incontrovertible evidence of intelligent life in the universe, I think the current popular stories originate in the minds of the tellers, and not the vast cosmos.
However, I do not think in most cases it is craziness or drugs.
I would give them the benefit of the doubt and say it is the good old, predictable, desire for attention. Sort of like the bullshit that politicians say in order to get attention. Just a different style.
@josie It is the strange sameness of the claims that people in different times and places make that they have been abducted and had stuff stuck up their asshole or vagina or something. This means something, although I do not know exactly what. But, whatever it is, it says more about the abductee, than the supposed alien abductor.
If I had to look at it as the Devil’s advocate in a pragmatically way, would the story change much? If the beings visiting our planet were to be believed as actually having done it, they would most likely be from the same planet or region of planets having the same methods. When we go tag wild life here, we use the similar methods no matter what nation you are in. Look at what we do to animals, put camera collars on them, microchip them, clip their ears. Looking at it pragmatically, if they are more interested in our development, as you say, we are higher advanced, they might be more evasive in what probes, tags, and such they use to track the movements of those they grabbed or examined.
Plus, I am not buying the notion that advanced alien life forms would look at us as if we were garden slugs.
I guess the misunderstanding here is that I am not saying they will see us and treat us with no higher worth than we treat garden slugs, but that their technical advancement would be as ours would be to a garden slug, even something as simple as the chemical process if a matchstick would be too high for a garden slug, and that is fairly low technology to humans. In like manner what they might see as a low-tech matchstick would be so far ahead of us, we could never grasp it.
I would give them the benefit of the doubt and say it is the good old, predictable, desire for attention. Sort of like the bullshit that politicians say in order to get attention. Just a different style.
That is to say what, at best they are embellishers, and at worse straight out attention seeking liars? How many of the millions who make that claim would fall into that category, even the cops, military personnel or young children who lack the concept of spin?
Can’t dispute what you are saying. I just see it differently.
Since there is no real way to settle the issue, I suppose one can only acknowledge that one point of view is as good or as worthless as another.
^ Since there is no real way to settle the issue, I suppose one can only acknowledge that one point of view is as good or as worthless as another.
It can have an amount of certainty when one uses pure science, and the laws of probability, however, some will not believe even with science until something as dramatic as this transpire.
No more crazy than people who believe to have seen angels, or who claim to have seen the afterlife in a “near death experience”.
^ Then you are saying they saw what they saw, or is that another weak attempt to name those who had near death experiences or have seen angels crazy? I think if you said that to the parent of children you might want to duck less have good dental insurance.
I view them the same as I do those who claim to have “found god” & believe unreservedly in his divine existence. Put simply, they’re all fucking crackpots.
@ragingloli […and all you do is respond with threats. Typical
Any lie to whore for lurve. Please, do not flatter yourself; you have very little importance to me that I would want to assault you or any one of your clones here. You are just noise on a Web site for the ungoldly. You do not come to mind less I am praying for lost and doomed people of this generations sliding down the abyss.
I have no children for you or @ucme insult because they said they seen a spaceman, I however, know some people that will clean your clock for insulting their child and they do not care if you or anyone is an atheist as they might be also. They will not care if their child was right, incorrect in what they seen or lying, you will not say anything to the whiff that their child is off the reservation or you or anyone else will be searching for their teeth off the concrete. Maybe up in the suburbs parents are more genteel but when you leave there, best be careful what you say or indicate about other people’s children, all I have to say.
My belief is aliens are real and they’re fucking with us because they can.
There is NO WAY we are ALONE.
But I also believe a LOT of those who claimed they were abducted have mental conditions.
My friend have been swearing for decades she saw a UFO. As a kid I also saw one but after decades now I’m not sure whether that happened or it was just a memory of a dream.
Some are telling the truth; some dreamed it; others were on drugs and the rest are telling the truth and it happened.
I’m pretty sure there is other life out there. Whether it’s some shrooms growing on an otherwise lifeless planet or entire civilizations, there’s probably other life oot dar.
Problem with people who claim to have been abducted with aliens is, said claims much too often share traits and behaviors that are associated with when people claimed to have been visited by demons or vampires and shit in older times. Of course, I wasn’t there back then, I can’t actually base it on that, but then why the hell aren’t people visited by demons and vampires anymore? Why aliens now? Or if aliens visited and abducted us back then, well our interpretation of them sure doesn’t look like incubi. :/
But eh, just saying that sleep disorder, psychological disorders and such are probably the most likely cause. I have nocturnal paralysis, and when you don’t know at all what it is, it’s easy to start believing in ghosts and aliens, trust me.
The other problem with said claims is that it always seems like something out of a movie. Peoples’ claims seem to emulate what entertainment has done with aliens, and I just don’t buy it. Does the government really spend millions to hide aliens? Are aliens really so interested in our cattle and buttholes? I mean come on. @josie has a good point. If there are intelligent life forms out there watching us, they’re probably more interested in other human stuff besides cows and asses.
But really, don’t take this as fact, just saying what I think. People could have been abducted, who knows. Can’t very well be sure of this when I don’t know if there is other life or not.
And why would aliens need to mutilate cattle, and implant stuff into people?
Even in Star Trek, they can just scan an entire planet in a few minutes. Bam, done. Now you know everything you need to know.
No need to send flying saucers to scurry around, no need to shine light into people’s bedrooms to abduct them. No need to suck organs and blood out of a cow.
It could be them having an episode of sleep paralysis. It comes with scary hallucinations, and it can make you feel like you’re being lifted off the bed and floating.
@Symbeline But eh, just saying that sleep disorder, psychological disorders and such are probably the most likely cause.
That would be in the camp of people believing they seen it to be slightly crazy, even military people and those in the government. If that is the fact and totally ignoring the fact of how many planets out there that could carry life similar to our or maybe nothing like it, or taking the arrogant position that the ”Wonder Event” happened here and only here. If indeed they seen what they seen because they were one oar short of a rowing crew, what is the solution, put them on psych meds, or them to a shrink? You don’t want to have crazy people wondering around with badges and guns, flying military aircraft, or driving busses, etc.
“You don’t want to have crazy people wondering around with badges and guns, flying military aircraft, or driving busses, etc.”
And yet they do, all the time.
It’s hard to imagine anyone from the third world having time to be abducted by aliens.
^ It’s hard to imagine anyone from the third world having time to be abducted by aliens.
Then the alleged psychosis is only indicative of western technical nations or societies?
@Hypocrisy_Central I’m thinking more that anyone whose life is full of “living” has more things to think about than alien abduction, it’s very hard to imagine that subject even registering on their radar.
@Adagio I’m thinking more that anyone whose life is full of “living” has more things to think about than alien abduction, it’s very hard to imagine that subject even registering on their radar.
If they thought or believed that they were abducted, how can they just ignore it? That would be totally different than worrying if they will be abducted.
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