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How is it possible for an 18 year old to arrange delivery of 3,000 rounds of ammunition to a private residence within a 48 hour time period in the United States? [Details]?

Asked by ibstubro (18804points) July 30th, 2015

Source.

Is there absolutely no accounting for ammunition?

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majorrich's avatar

There is nothing illegal about overnighting a parcel anywhere you wish to send it. There will be additional expense because of the nature of whats in the box, but no reason you shouldn’t be able to do it.

kritiper's avatar

Money talks!!!

johnpowell's avatar

Bullets aren’t Pez Dispensers. The supplier should probably have asked some questions. Shit, the 7–11 asks me questions if I try to buy to much PBR at one time.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Nothing illegal at all.

The NRA, in addition to promoting gun purchasing, has strongly fought against restrictions of purchase or control of ammunition.

18 year old – no criminal record – working credit card. No reason why the seller would deny such a purchase.

Like it or not, the NRA has made the world friendlier for people who want to kill people with firearms. Until politicians collectively grow spines (!) this will not change.

chyna's avatar

I can’t get a box of checks delivered in under two weeks.

If nothing else, hopefully this will put a stop to amunition in this amount to be questioned first.

Pandora's avatar

Thank goodness the bullets where late, but they never should’ve been able to get their hands on that many bullets.
Thank God that some of the children made it. I wonder why did they spare the sister and the baby.

chyna's avatar

@Pandora Good question. I wonder why they didn’t wait on the bullets?

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Here is one site that offers ammunition for sale and the laws. Restrictions are listed, but there is no mention of requiring idenification, unless I missed it in the details.

stanleybmanly's avatar

It’s really simple. There are so many guns loose in the country now that the ammunition available would understandably rise to meet the demand. The sheer quantities out there assure that anyone who wants either can come up with the weaponry necessary to equip a Vietnam era infantry squad with about the same effort required to secure a kilo of cocaine. In fact 10 years ago, a guy told me that where he lived a good gun was a lot easier to come by than good dope, and that he was prepared to embark on a career dealing both. He’s retired now and living on a rented estate somewhere in the Seychelles, as he gradually tours the world and laughs at me back here paying taxes.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

And people scoff at Mrs Squeeky and I for not wanting children,see,see,I have a lot more ammo than that but it and my firearms are so locked up even under duress it would take just under 10 minutes to get them out and loaded.

Blueroses's avatar

Firstly @ibstubro , “sources told Fox News” does not make it a fact no matter how many times it’s repeated. The Tulsa police dept has not confirmed that any such delivery occurred.

I’m not saying this to belittle your concern, only to remind that we put too much trust in media reports.

Try ordering ammo online. It can only be done by bank credit card (no pre-paid) by a person over 21 years of age and there’s a confirmation waiting period while the card holder’s credentials are processed. It can not be shipped to a different address than the billing address for the card. A repeat customer may be registered with the company for faster shipping.

IF the delivery tip is true, the most probable scenario is that the boys used their parents’ credit card. Any number of nefarious activities can be done with a parents’ purloined card and it isn’t difficult for a child to access it. Ever leave your wallet or purse unguarded in your own home? Of course you have. Ever think, “hmm, what if my child wants to kill me?” Probably not.

tinyfaery's avatar

Congress: brought to you by the NRA, oil and the Koch brothers

Adirondackwannabe's avatar

Whoa, I bought all kinds of ammo when I was 13 or 14 and I never got a question or an ID request. I hunted a lot back then and had no problem getting any of it.

ragingloli's avatar

Probably the only “Background check” they are doing is looking if the name sounds muslim or black.

Buttonstc's avatar

Comedian Chris Rock has an interesting take on all the debate about gun control and such.

His solution is simple: “you don’t need gun control. You just need bullet control. If bullets cost $500 each, you just might think twice about shooting that guy you’re pissed off at.”

Humorous, but there’s a grain of truth there.
Of course the NRA would make certain that ANY type of bullet control would never pass either.

kritiper's avatar

@Buttonstc Yes it might work but who should get the extra money being paid for the bullets? The manufacturer? Price gouging. Americans don’t like that. The government? Extraordinary subsidization. Americans don’t like that either. Talk about Americans being “up-in-arms!” WOW! But you are right about the NRA’s involvement. I agree that it would never fly.

tinyfaery's avatar

The bullets are supposed to be $5,000 each.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Honestly folks, 3,000 rounds is not that much depending on the caliber. To someone who shoots a lot 3,000 rounds of 22LR is peanuts. 3000 rounds of 308… that’s a lot. It’s also cheaper to buy in bulk so even that would not raise any alarm. People do it all the time. It’s also a hedge against rising prices. The prices are often volatile and it’s not uncommon for people to buy certain caliber ammo only to resell it at a big profit.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

I reload my own ammo, and in a night could pump out maybe 5 to 10thousand rounds.and a hell of a lot cheaper than buying factory stuff,and a lot more accurate ammo to at that.

Buttonstc's avatar

@tinyfaery

I have a horrible memory for numbers. Thanks for the reminder :)

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 I have a couple friends who reload. I don’t really shoot enough to justify getting all the equipment but I agree, cheaper and more consistent accuracy. The technical challenge and getting to play with all of the different ballistic variables is appealing to me also.

ibstubro's avatar

I don’t see where News on 6 is a Fox affiliate, @Blueroses.

Shoots at what a lot, @ARE_you_kidding_me? Why?
I’m not being a smartass, they’re genuine questions. My dad collected guns, as does my brother, but they never seemed to actually shoot them much. Not hunters, even.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@ibstubro it’s sport shooting weather it be trap shooting, or sporting clays, long range target shooting, or metallic silhouette ,with hand guns, great sport good people not Bonnie and Clyde that most anti gunners think..
And your honing a skill.

ibstubro's avatar

Like golf, then, @SQUEEKY2?

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Yes, exactly like golf. Shooting is a hobby and one that I enjoy. Frankly golf is for sissies.

ibstubro's avatar

But, why couldn’t the skill be honed in a non-lethal way? Rubber bullets and a thinner sporting clay, for instance?

I don’t think of another sport where the annihilation of the target is the goal.
Baseball surely has origins of practicing human hunting skills, as does skeet. Yet baseballs are made as non-lethal as practicable.

Lets make a sport of shooting guns, much like sailing.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Ok and while we are at it,lets take the alcohol out of Beer, to cut down on drinking and driving,since more people are killed by drunk drivers every year than guns.

ibstubro's avatar

If drinking were a finely honed skill, a sport, water would undoubtedly be the liquid of choice, @SQUEEKY2.

In any case, I’m pretty sure an 18 year old arranging for delivery of 3,000 cans of beer to a private residence would raise an eyebrow or two.

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