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What freedom do U.S citizens have, that other free countries citizens do not?

Asked by SQUEEKY2 (23403points) September 18th, 2015

U.S citizens claim they live in the most free country on earth, but there other countries free as well, Canada, England, Australia, Belgium, and so on, so why is the states so much more free?

And before anyone gets their gonads all bunched up, this isn’t a dis against the states, I just want to know how they can make such a claim.

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obvinate's avatar

They have indices that measure this. link

Read their measuring methodology for details.

Off the top of my head, hate speech is forbidden in a lot of countries including the ones you mentioned.

rojo's avatar

Thanks @obvinate and way to go New Zealand and Switzerland! Top on the Class!

cazzie's avatar

Miss new Zealand.

stanleybmanly's avatar

The U.S leads the first world in the novel right to freedom of ignorance. The logic works like this: since ignorance is bliss, it follows that it is required in the pursuit of happiness.

rojo's avatar

“But Don’t Miss Young Frankenstein!”

zenvelo's avatar

The United Kingdom has some pretty restrictive laws on speech, and also they have an Official Religion, of which the Queen is the Supreme Governor.

JLeslie's avatar

Who says Americans think we have the most freedom? We have a history of freedom, and especially religious freedom, was a big part of our founding when that was pretty hard to find in the world. We also tolerate freedom of speech in a broader definition than almost any other country. We also were founded on the premise that each individual can progress based on their own merit. They are not born into a class and held there. At the time of our founding most countries that people came from had royalty and more obvious levels of social classes. In America we are “all created equal” so we can climb the social classes. We don’t have to live down a debt of our fathers, or be attached to our surname legacy. We can branch out and make our own way and be judged by our own work.

When America was created a lot of these ideas were unique and special. Not that people before didn’t want these freedoms, but America wrote it down as a form of government. It truly was a special creation for it’s time.

Now, many countries have similar freedoms, one might argue that in some realms the United States is not as free as other countries. But, in many realms we are free in a way that is more extreme in the US than other places.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@JLeslie “Who says Americans think we have the most freedom?”

Well, you call your president “the leader of the free world”. If you believe there is a country that is “more free” than America, then why would you do that?

(Here, I use “you” to mean Americans, not you personally)

Brian1946's avatar

@cazzie “Miss new Zealand.”

How did she do in the Miss Universe contest, and does she now consider herself to be free from Trump? ;-)

cazzie's avatar

I miss new Zealand. Don’t be a dick.

LuckyGuy's avatar

There is a broken pine tree branch hanging by a thread about 25 ft up in a tall tree overhanging the driveway to my barn. I can legally walk outside right now with a shotgun and blast that branch right out of the tree. I can pop tent caterpillar nests out of my apple trees with my .22 loaded with #10 shot.

I can go online, Amazon, buy a pellet gun that shoots at 1000 ft per second and have it delivered to my home. In Canada the speeds are limited to 500 ft per second.

I can have and use a Valentine radar detector in my car. Those are illegal in Canada.

flutherother's avatar

US citizens are citizens. In the UK we are subjects (of the Queen).

Mimishu1995's avatar

How about the freedom to own guns? ~

Kropotkin's avatar

The greatest freedom that the US has, which others countries typically have not, is the freedom to be stupid.

This freedom is so cherished that a stupid person can even become the President.

Here in the UK, the freedoms we have that the US has not are the freedom to understand irony, the freedom to have bad teeth, and also the freedom to make snide and sardonic remarks about the USA.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Kropotkin We have that last one in Canada, too! I suspect it’s a Commonwealth-wide freedom.

ragingloli's avatar

@Kropotkin
Do not forget the freedom to get a medical treatment without having to fear bankruptcy.

cazzie's avatar

Those with the money have the freedom to buy property that has a waterfront and then deny access to other people to that water or wilderness on their property line. (Not the case in New Zealand or Norway. People are guaranteed access to waterfront. In New Zealand I think it is called Queens Chain and in Norway it is called ‘Allmannsrett’ .)

cazzie's avatar

Americans are still free to eat Ractopamine-tainted meat and milk and dairy products containing rBGH.

JLeslie's avatar

@dappled_leaves I think it’s totally obnoxious that sometimes our President is referred to as the leader of the free world. I assume that’s a hold over from the Cold War, but I really don’t know the history of it. Not all of us Americans use that term, which I’m sure you know. Your point is well taken though. I really think quite a few Americans know so little about other countries that they perceive America as being the only really free one. We have it kind of drummed into us that we are free.

@cazzie Some local government have ordinances that beaches are public. I’m not sure if it’s done on a state, county, or city level. It’s true though that public access to beaches is an issue and there have been court cases. I think in FL any place inside the high tide mark is public. That might be wrong. That still is not the same as all beaches are public. I know on many parts of the coast near Clearwater Beach the sand behind houses is open to the public.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Let’s not forget the freedom of the gun, though I’ve heard the Swiss require all adult males to keep an assault rifle at home.

cazzie's avatar

We have a well armed population as well. But not handguns. We keep guns for polar bears and white walkers. Winter is coming.

cazzie's avatar

Regarding the freedom to buy waterfront property because of large political donations, for example:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/dnr-agrees-to-sell-prime-lake-frontage-to-big-scott-walker-donor-b99579091z1-328391481.html

I had heard Walker was a dick, but he’s really embarrassed himself in the world with his run for the GOP nomination.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

As a private Canadian citizen I can legally own any firearm ,but a machine gun, as for the free speech I can protest anything, but I do know hate speech and threats are illegal and I am fine with that.

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