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Did you know that Canada might elect a new leader today?

Asked by dappled_leaves (15898points) October 19th, 2015

Today, Canada holds its 42nd general election, after an exceptionally long campaign (72 days!). In Canada, we do not vote directly for our national leader, the Prime Minister. Instead, we elect local candidates as Members of Parliament (MPs), and the Prime Minister is chosen by the party with the greatest number of elected MPs.

There are 23 federal political parties in Canada this year, but only three stand a good chance to win the election: the Liberal Party, the New Democratic Party (or NDP), and the Conservative Party. Two smaller parties, the Green Party (which focuses on environmental issues) and the Bloc Québécois (which exists only to promote Quebec’s interests at the national level), will also have an effect on the final vote tally.

The party leaders are Justin Trudeau (Liberal), the son of former PM Pierre Trudeau, who was possibly best known for enacting martial law during the October Crisis in the 1970s. Pierre Trudeau was PM for a total of 15 years, and had strong views about what kind of country Canada should be. Many people feel that Justin Trudeau will bring a return to traditional Canadian values; others feel that he is young and inexperienced (though I should point out that he has more experience in government than Barack Obama did when he took office), still others think that his Liberal Party is too conservative (reminiscent of how the Democratic Party is seen by American liberals).

The NDP is led by Tom Mulcair, who has had a long and varied career in politics. He is known for speaking his mind even when it might be politically costly. He is certainly the most liberal of the party leaders.

And Stephen Harper, the Conservative leader, is, well, not a well-liked man. He pretty much takes all of his cues from the Republican politics, and I could go on at great length about how his leadership has cost Canada the world’s respect. His campaign has recently thrown most of its energy into stirring up fear and hatred towards Muslims, demanding that the niqab be banned in certain settings and making it seem like ISIS is a great national threat.

Our greatest fear is that, as in the last election, the liberal vote (and that is most of us, folks) will be split between the Liberals and the NDP, resulting in yet another Conservative government. For this reason, there is a movement promoting strategic voting (or ABC voting – Anything But Conservative), which entails using polling results to decide which local candidate has the best chance of beating the Conservative in that riding.

Here is yesterday’s piece by John Oliver explaining why we are going to be biting our nails to the quick tonight. He misses a lot of the major issues, but nonetheless catches some of the surreal qualities of our political situation. Canadian comedian Rick Mercer regularly posts his own rants about it all.

You can take a look at the most recent poll projections at Three Hundred Eight.com, our equivalent of Nate Silver’s FiveThirtyEight.com. If you’d like to know which party you might align with, try your hand at the Vote Compass, a survey that graphically compares your own views with the major party platforms.

Election results will start rolling in around 7pm Eastern Daylight Time, and can be followed in a number of ways, or just Google “Canada election results”, and you’ll see Google’s interactive election coverage map. Or try going to your local pub and seeing if they’re showing live coverage for ex-pats.

Care to share any questions or thoughts that you might have about this event?

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26 Answers

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

Thanks and good luck.

CWOTUS's avatar

Canada? That’s still a thing? Boy, the things you learn from time to time.

Cruiser's avatar

Vote Compass said I would probably support the Green Party.

elbanditoroso's avatar

I have a couple of friends who have been telling me about this. Apparently Harper is quite the asshole and has been playing to the far right. The only way that he will win is if the two more moderate guys split the vote.

They’re voting for Trudeau.

janbb's avatar

Yes I did know. Good luck!

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Yes and I think their debates made the Republican debate here look like a bunch of silly schoolboys. Good luck, Canada!

Berserker's avatar

Going for NDP. Yes, I’m a traitor to all Québec.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Hawaii_Jake, @janbb Thanks!

@CWOTUS Yup, it pays to look up once in a while.

@Cruiser Were you surprised? I know a number of people who did not expect the result they got.

@elbanditoroso I would agree with that ass-essment. It is looking now like we will have a Liberal win, but I’m hoping the NDP will at least form the opposition.

@Espritus_Corvus The debates were pretty good; actual discussions about the issues instead of endless talking points. We are lucky that we can still do that here. The Conservatives skipped many of the debates, which did not enamour them to anyone.

@Symbeline Aw, I don’t think so! The whole province went NDP in the last election; I think it will happen to a lesser extent this year. Anyway, Harper can expect very few seats in this province – which is one reason I was surprised to see him spend so much time campaigning here.

josie's avatar

Bet on Trudeau

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

Yes I did. It’s been covered on our news here. I don’t know enough about Canadian political parties to know what Trudeau’s position is, but I hope he’s a move back from the right.

Cruiser's avatar

@dappled_leaves No I am not surprised as I have fit in the Green/Libertarian stable for a long while now. I am most at odds though when the Constitution gets manhandled and where I won’t neatly fit in some obviously biased “survey” delineations of their choosing.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Cruiser “I won’t neatly fit in some obviously biased “survey” delineations of their choosing.”

Yes, I have the same problem – I think this is why people become surprised by these results. It’s difficult to have any survey show how we weight individual issues to make a final decision about who to vote for. That said, I like the way that this particular survey breaks down the party positions to make them clearer for voters. It will never be perfect, but it’s helpful.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

I’m following the results on Google. I love the Internet.

Berserker's avatar

@dappled_leaves I know, but everyone I know’s always all like, bloc Québécois, bitch! That thing’s just dead.

ibstubro's avatar

I knew and I supported Justin Trudeau.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Symbeline Yeah, I really thought it was dead after the last election. But then, the Liberal Party was looking pretty dead after the last election, too. And look where we are tonight.

Hawaii_Jake's avatar

I’m following the live blog on The Guardian. This is very encouraging!

dappled_leaves's avatar

@Hawaii_Jake YES! Expect all your Canadian friends to be celebrating tomorrow. There will be a Liberal majority government. The Conservatives will likely be the opposition party, but since we have a majority government, they won’t have the power to block legislation. Harper will resign as leader of the Conservatives.

I’m sad to see that the NDP did not do better, but it is hard to complain under the circumstances.

Results (still coming in) here: http://www.cbc.ca/includes/federalelection/dashboard/

Berserker's avatar

Yeah, sucks for NDP but really I’m just glad Harper’s out.

rojo's avatar

Perhaps it is just me but the US media seems to think that the election of Trudeau is a bad thing; it is like they think Harper was good for both of our countries.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@rojo That’s interesting. Do you know why specifically they think that? Certainly, Harper was heavy on things like oil production (in the dirtiest way possible) and the TPP. However, Trudeau is largely pro-pipeline and supported the controversial anti-terror Bill C-51, which increases the government’s power to spy on citizens. Rather American ideals, those.

He did immediately pull us out of Syria, which probably doesn’t please Obama much. Historically, Canada’s military role has been a peacekeeping one, which is one of the biggest changes Harper made. Trudeau plans to bring us back to that.

rojo's avatar

@dappled_leaves Sorry, I meant traditional media; newspapers, mags, tv, etc. Social Media is mostly for Trudeau.

If you take a look at this list 25 Reasons Harper is Bad for Canada You will see that many of his policies are in line with what conservatives in the US advocate. And despite protests to the opposite, the traditional media in the US is not all that liberal. It is owned and run by people with conservative leanings.

dappled_leaves's avatar

@rojo ” Sorry, I meant traditional media”

Yes, I understood what you meant. I was wondering if you had a specific article or two in mind.

Brian1946's avatar

I don’t remember our local corporate media (I usually watch KABC “News” which is owned by DizzKnee) having any coverage about the Canadian election results, although they may have once mentioned that Trudeau won.

Most of their reports are about cars crashing into houses, fire hydrants, pedestrians, or being chased by helicopters, cop cars, or being recorded by newscopters.

Their current ad-nauseum loop is stuck on Lamar Odom-Kardashian’s (ex-pro basketball player) recovery from taking an overdose of something like Viagra, while at a brothel in Las Vegas. ;-0

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