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Paul Ryan is calling the (ugh) Freedom Caucus' bluff. Will they go for it? And will they keep their promises?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33577points) October 21st, 2015

Ryan said, in short, that he’ll take the job as Speaker of the House on the condition that he won’t be stabbed in the back by the Freedom Caucus (aka the Hostage Takers).

Will they go along with Ryan’s demand?

And if they say they will, will they keep their word?

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zenvelo's avatar

Who knows? It isn’t as if one could apply logic to the thinking of that caucus. Even their chosen name is a misnomer; they want freedom for themselves but no one else. They are anarchists.

They cannot be trusted.

rojo's avatar

I guess it will depend upon whether his definition of being stabbed in the back is the same as theirs. OH! We thought you meant literally, not figuratively!

janbb's avatar

I suspect it will depend on how much he is willing to bend over.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Ryan’s offer to hurl himself on the pyre is thought necessary to undo the stench associated with the floundering Republican brand. Extracting the impossible promise leaves opens his option of dumping the “hot potato” with a shrugging “well , I tried”

filmfann's avatar

Ryan wants to change the way a Speaker is removed. This may cause some discord with the FF. Don’t look for this to be a rubber stamp.

janbb's avatar

I find it very scary when Paul Ryan is coming across as the reasonable one.

LostInParadise's avatar

What happens if no Speaker is elected by the end of the month? Boehner said he is leaving regardless. Would the government shut down? Maybe that is the ultimate plan of the conservatives.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Nah, the speaker isn’t necessary for the government, or even the House, for that matter, to function. If one isn’t selected by the time Boehner steps down then both parties will just keep voting on a nominee (the Speaker doesn’t have to come from the majority party or, actually, from the House at all), repeating the process until one is finally selected.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Ryan has the neighsayers over a barrel. The great risk to the Republicans is that the less
rabid members will team up with DEMOCRATS and combine to name a speaker from left of Ryan

zenvelo's avatar

Just read that the Freedom Caucus rules state you must have four fifths of their 40 members to get their endorsement. And 9 have rejected Ryan, so it looks like there won’t be what he wants.

So 9 representatives from a kook faction out of 435 House members will throw the country under the bus.

jerv's avatar

We are talking about people who do stuff like this

I doubt they’ll go for it as it still will leave Obama in the White House instead of hanging on the lawn, and thus falls far short of what they want.

msh's avatar

jerv- that’s the scariest thing I’ve seen today! Wow.
””””””””””
On the evening news, they actually had the teatwits party saying that if Paul Ryan ( ack ack ack) wanted to put his family first- over the job, then he obviously was the wrong person to be Speaker.
Wait, what? The far right wants him to lower his family values for the job?
Excuse me a minute. I gotta click my heels together a couplea times…because this sure isn’t America’s Far Right speaking is it? Toto, I don’t think we’re in Congress anymore!

jerv's avatar

@msh The “Freedom Caucus” is why I absolutely cannot take the Republican Party seriously. Conservatives really need to either control their wild dogs or euthanize the ones too feral to ever be anything other than a danger to society before the entire party gets branded a terrorist organization, or at least an ally/supporter of one.

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