@marinelife What makes people who are addicted to alcohol and drugs do nothing about it. It is the same thing. It is an illness.
Let’s run with that idea for a minute. Even if someone wanted to do something about their chemical dependency, trying to kick it there body will physically rebel and become ill. Alcohol after a while causes the body to become dependent on it and getting off causes DTs, same with some drugs, but I would have to speculate that getting on them is due to some psychosis. If you know of a study that says people cutting their caloric intake and I am not talking drastic fad diets etc., that they will become physically ill or have things like withdrawals or DTs, and not just psychologically, I would love to read it, it might give me a different take on it. Then, the obese people should be thanking the diet industry for doing them a service, since it is such an epidemic that 5 out of 7 people somehow develop it and cannot do anything about it themselves.
@canidmajor Oh, good grief. Some of us who are what you would consider to be overweight just don’t worry as much as the Fat Police want us to.
So, you’d say the US. Department of Health and Human Services are in reality the “Fat Police” because they post that more than half of the US citizenry they are doing so just because of aesthetics? What is the Cancer Society, the “Lung Police”? I guess they just put out papers saying how bad smoking and secondhand smoke is because they were paid off by the booze industry and not because smoking is actually harmful?
My doctor and a few specialists have signed off on my good health.
How many people who are severely obese do you think has a clean bill of health from their doctor? Had you not had one from your doctor you would still do nothing so long as you got a few eye ogles and wolf whistles?
@hearkat We were also going out to eat on the weekends and being indulgent.
Food is the hardest bad habit to break: you can’t quit cold-turkey, and it is everywhere. Most cultures use food to celebrate and people harass you if you try to decline a slice of birthday cake, and such. Unhealthy food and beverage products are heavily advertised, fairly cheap and very convenient.
Our electronic entertainment services and products make it way too easy to spend hours and even days with our asses on the couch. Weight loss is a very long and arduous process, in our instant-gratification society, it is difficult to stay motivated when the benefits aren’t clearly evident.
Each one of those things are real, but it is not as if they are immovable mountains. If you know you are eating to excess, you can make changes to not do it. Here in the US we like everything big, houses, cars, TVs, BBQ grills, fast food. With all that some people still eat healthier even when it is not supposed to taste as good or be as enjoyable as the fattening stuff. If the very fact junk food was so easy to get and hawked everywhere, and that is the reason people cannot avoid it, why do we still have vegans? Should not they capitulated and gotten back on the “burger wagon”?
Self-esteem and depression and other mental health components also play a huge role. Eating disorders like anorexia and bulimia are much better understood as mental illnesses, but binge and compulsive overeating are also eating disorders and tied in with mental health.
Are you trying to say ⅔ of Americans are overweight to severely overweight because they have low self-esteem or have mental problems, not that over indulgence or lack of motivation for exercise has any part in it?
As harshly as you seem to judge others based on the stuff you post here, you must be a fucking Adonis…
I was fat, when people started making comments like of there were two of me in those jeans, or teasing me with ”moo, moo” when I had a plate in my hand, topped off I could not see ”it” or my toes when I got out of the shower, I knew I had to do something about it or I never would have. Giving it straight is seen as harsh, so be it. I am not going to blow smoke up anyone’s ass just to make them feel good when the facts speak otherwise, any more than I will tell those I know who smoke 2 ½ packs a day that they are in no way harming themselves just because they can still go mountain biking, box at the gym, or chop 2 cord of fire wood. Am I in the shape I was when I lost the weight, no, but I know it is because I am not making the time and the effort to do it.
@DrasticDreamer You have no idea who does or doesn’t have a thyroid problem, and they’re more common than a lot of people realize.
Shouldn’t Big Pharm be making a magic pill that will correct the thyroid problem ⅔ of Americans must have that will allow one to eat as they wish and not get fat? Even if they charged $80 bucks a pill they are doing a service to all those poor souls with this thyroid problem making them fat. Why wouldn’t they, ⅔ of the population has to be at least a couple of billion people.
@jerv Now, I qualify as “overweight” at ~200 pounds, but I can still do most of the stuff I used to do, and the things I can’t do any more are the result of things other than weight.
If you were a 3 pack a day smoker but you could still do what you did before you started smoking, you would believe the smoking would have no consequences for your health, either on going that you can’t detect in real time, or in the future?