Would the US be happier if future females could be genetically created not to have nipples until seven months pregnant?

I think you’re focusing the solution on the wrong side of the issue. The nipple-phobes need to deal with their issues. The fact that they overly sexualize nipples is not anyone’s problem but their own. Women have nipples…they provide milk to our babies. Somehow the first world seems to have forgotten that.

@Inara27 I think you’re focusing the solution on the wrong side of the issue. The nipple-phobes need to deal with their issues
Their issue was in large created by society and the media behind it. Some who are nipple-phobes might not even realize they are. When you are peppered with the idea, overtly or bluntly, that to not wear a bra or to indicate in any way there is a nipple at the end of your breast you are hoochie, vulgar, improper, or you will have sagging breast by the time you are 40 it is hard not to believe it, so even if you did not have to wear one, you would. It has expanded to a much greater segment of the populace than germaphobes. Those who believe that anything they touched that someone else has touched is somehow going to doom them, imagine if society was germophobic as they are nipple-phobic? We would have future generations that will have an immune system so weak a simple cold would wipe them out and they will have created the monster they tried to avoid. So having a famous entertainer with a full top but no bra be more obscene than another famous entertainer walking about topless less for pasties hiding any indication of nipple be OK even in network TV or prime time award shows, can and has latently indoctrinated whole generations of females view a part of the body the way male-oriented society viewed it, and believing nipples are evil and should be treated similar to weapons.

Yes, they are for feeding babies but even most women forget that in lieu of the low road and sexualizing them as well, and doing all they can to eliminate any visual evidence they have them.

edit In general, society as a whole seem to would feel better if women did not have nipples for if they did not have them, there would be nothing to try and hide, or view as sexy or alluding to sex and not natural anatomy.

Where exactly is this major public outcry against going braless? Hypo, honey, it’s not 1967.

How is that any different from Muslim Fundamentalists saying that women must cover themselves from head to toe because men may be “tempted”?

@Seek No, according to the GOP, it’s 1667.

@ragingloli Because Jesus.

The people who make a fuss out of this stuff are not going to be happy. Period.

Suppose this actually came to pass. Do you honestly think that they won’t find something else to be enraged about?

@Seek _ Where exactly is this major public outcry against going braless?_
You won’t, paraphrasing Sun Tzu if your enemy is near to you, make him think you are far from him; if you are far from your enemy, make him think you are very close. Of late, and maybe the foreseeable future you will not see a campaign against it the likes of that against smoking. Even the alternatives, that from what I can see are better, ecigerettes, and vaping are attacked for no other reason than they look too much like smoking tobacco. The campaign is more like the old Popeye cartoons where Wimpy was fat, slow, weak, broke, and always ate hamburgers. The sub-context was if you want to be strong and win all of the time, and be a hero like a sailor (the strong military influence), eat your spinach, if you want to be a weak, slow broke nobody eat hamburgers. They did not have to openly attack burger joints or hamburgers but the undercut message was clear, and if you offer someone a more acceptable and popular option you can get them to take it and make them believe it was solely their choice to do it.

@ragingloli How is that any different from Muslim Fundamentalists saying that women must cover themselves from head to toe because men may be “tempted”?
Because Muslim Fundamentalist would be dogged about holding one single standard, not have a two-faced approach to it. If they were to do it like the US they would say a female be covered from head to ankle but say nothing if she were covered in a abaya that was as transparent as the garment Miley Cyrus sported at the 2015 (I believe) VMA awards, only no balloons strategically placed, yet stone or punish a woman in a long sleeve opaque cow-neck sweater and a black pencil skirt. That would be the closes equivalent.

@jerv Because Jesus.
Er…bras were not invented then, all the women were natural about the bosom under whatever they wore, I doubt they found it anything strange as in the US at present.

Suppose this actually came to pass. Do you honestly think that they won’t find something else to be enraged about?
I am sure they will but it won’t be to prevent women from being natural, they might go after something else but not for the same reason.

@Hypocrisy_Central That “Because Jesus” was in response to @ragingloli asking, “How is that any different…”, not to the original question. But your answer to @ragingloli‘s question is just… wow.

“Because Muslim Fundamentalist would be dogged about holding one single standard, not have a two-faced approach to it.”

Different Muslims have different ideas about how much needs covering. Some Muslim women wear no more than a Catholic nun wears (their full face is exposed), some wear a burqa, and some split the difference with a Niqab. If Muslim Fundamentalists were capable of adhering to a single standard, I doubt we’d have the sort of sectarian violence that we keep seeing.

In any case, the best way would be to genetically engineer females to come with both female and male sexual organs, to make men obsolete.

@ragingloli I shudder to think how Rule 34 would apply…

It is called “Futanari”.

Yet no one is mentioning the obvious here. Men have nipples too and by this logic will serve no purpose what so ever so perhaps they should be removed along with when they do the foreskin? Just an idea.

Actually, hypo, many women in Roman times wore breast-binders. Ancient Greek women tied on their chiton in such a way as to support their breasts with the cording.

And we have an actual set of a bra and panties from the 14th century. The Google term for that is “Lengberg bra”.

I’m pretty sure the only historical “free the nipple” cultures were the VERY pagan Minoans and the Pharaonic Egyptians, who hated clothes almost as much as they hated body hair.

@cazzie Yet no one is mentioning the obvious here. Men have nipples too and by this logic will serve no purpose what so ever so perhaps they should be removed along with when they do the foreskin?
That is the point; no one gives a rat’s redacted about nipples on males. If some male entertainers or sports figure was walking out of Chicken and Waffles in a thin shirt that indicated he had nipples, no one would care, they my care if he had a 40oz of 211 High Gravity or something but not that his dress showed he had nipples. I suspect the only time a man really irked someone for not having a shirt on was back when men were supposed to be in pressed white shirts like true European men, to not have a shirt made you uncivilized like those indigenous people, Pacific Islanders, Africans, Aborigines, Native Americans, those savages, or near to it. The nipples on a male are not evil, only on women (at least by industrial nation standards with the US leading the way), men can have nipples all day long, no one cares, so why even fret to do anything about it.

@Seek I’m pretty sure the only historical “free the nipple” cultures were the VERY pagan Minoans and the Pharaonic Egyptians, who hated clothes almost as much as they hated body hair.
I do not believe there had to be ”nipple free” cultures as most cultures worldwide were not ”nibble phobic” cultures. I believe this was the case when the Spaniards was looting South America and Sir Francis Drake was traveling the world lining everyone else up to be looted by England, Spain, and who knows who else. Out in the Pacific Islands, the plains of the Serengeti, the outback of Australia I am sure women did not wake up and think they can’t go gather berries or thresh the millet because they did not have a clean bra to wear. I saw some painting made around early Europe, maybe near the Resonance period or just before and the artist depicted the peasant women an naturally as can be painted, they were in their meager thin dresses without bras, corsets, etc. and slight indication of ”bullets” about the breast. The ancient world did not trip on it as now in the US.

Medieval and Renaissance artworks were not documentaries. They were meant to be titillating, interesting, and fashionable. If the artist’s patron wanted half naked peasants, that’s what he got. Women, even working women, would not be seen hawking their wares at market in their chemises.

Corsets didn’t exist until the Tudor period, and were only affordable and practical for upper class women. And you had better believe Bloody Mary had those puppies strapped down.

A fashionable young woman of minor nobility (not necessarily wealthy or even rich) in the 14th century would be wearing a shift under a chemise, under a cotehardie (collar bone to floor, tight to the wrists), under a sideless surcote.

You would have to be from Krypton to see nipples. In most cases she wouldn’t even take off the shift to bathe.

@ragingloli That would make females obsolete also.

@ARE_you_kidding_me Arguably, so would VR.

@Seek Medieval and Renaissance artworks were not documentaries. They were meant to be titillating, interesting, and fashionable. If the artist’s patron wanted half naked peasants, that’s what he got. Women,
I am sure as with some artist, they take liberties in the accurateness of their creation, however I do believe some thought only to capture things as they were, not use it ti serve as the earliest form of manga. I am sure not all women of that era were natural of breast, but as you pointed out, it was restricted mostly to those with money, status or both. You usually did not find the working stiff wearing a silk top hat either.

Silk top hats didn’t exist yet.

Do you really want to have a conversation on medieval costuming? Because you can guess all you want based on your perverted fantasies, but I actually study and reconstruct this shit.

^ Because you can guess all you want based on your perverted fantasies,
I did not realize that on top of period clothing reconstruction you were up on clairvoyance, you do not know what fantasies I may have or how I even view them if I have any. If you want to make the case for women having bra equivalents throughout history, I am all ears, link the sources, I would love to take a look, maybe there would be something there to explain this nipple phobia.

@jerv The internet basically has already

@ARE_you_kidding_me You’d think so, but no. The current internet pales in comparison with what’s coming.

you have never seen “shitting dick nipples” then

You lost your argument when you said the United States was leading the way for industrialised nations. Did you mean in hypocrisy?

and corruption, and crime, and violence, and income inequality, and christian sharia, and

@ragingloli Put a couple underscores in there, slap a .com at the end, and you got a site for enthusiasts.

@Hypocrisy_Central That is the point; no one gives a rat’s redacted about nipples on males.

Society and some individuals need to take one more logical step to “That is the point; no one gives a rat’s redacted about nipples.”

@cazzie You lost your argument when you said the United States was leading the way for industrialised nations. Did you mean in hypocrisy?
What I meant was the US leads the pack as far as nipple phobia is concerned. I am sure it may exist to a point in other nations (I can only go by people I have spoken with that spent time in other nations or the Internet) but like underarm hair, or people smelling remotely like humans, it seems to be more tolerable overseas. If the Internet has any accuracy you see many topless beaches in Europe, even Brazil and such, no one seems to make a big hoot about it. If here people have the heebie jeebies just seeing the dimple caused by a breast under full, opaque clothing, I cannot even see them shrugging a shoulder to a topless beach. You can have Miley Cyrus prancing around stage in what could be reduced to a transparent raincoat with well-placed balloons on a Primetime award show and because no nipple was seen of indicated no big fall out, I can only imagine what people say who was behind her. In the rags online and off, let an entertainer be caught shopping for Prada shoes at Sax 5th Avenue without a bra 98.9% there is a mention she was not wearing a bra, had she been wearing a bra no mention of that fact. I saw some travel sites awhile back about vacations and cruises one could take in the South Pacific and at some of the resorts or beaches women, native and tourist were walking around topless and no one seem to be freaking, you will not see that here less very, very few selective beaches but most likely it would have to be a Naturalist resort or some semi clothing optional beach.