After a day of partial slow Fluther it is humming like it was before, but why does the lurve total on the leaderboard not keeping up?
I never experienced the slowdown to the degree many seem to have and now that Fluther is humming again and doesn’t appear to be circling the drain, my aspirations are changed. My hand not being forced by a Fluther demise has to revert back to plan ‘A’, however, the total on the leaderboard is not reflecting the apparent activity. If you commented on 5 questions it should be 25 lurve points, but the total doesn’t move but 2 maybe 6 over a 12 hour timespan. So, is the leaderboard broke too along with the ”Questions for you”?
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@Here2_4 can’t take a hint?
I don’t look for the total to move by Atta Boys from the ol’ boy network around here, commenting and asking question garner one lurve out of their own pocket, it is part of the system, so one doesn’t have to grovel or cow to the masses. <tick tick> :)
There’s a maximum amount of lurve that you can get from each member. Any further GAs you get from that member will be registered, but they won’t add to your lurve total.
^ What does that have to do with comments i just make, it says it gave me 3 lurve for asking this, and 5 lurve for commenting on that, so where did “it” go? It did not register if you add it all up.
@Hypocrisy_Central You don’t automatically get lurve points for asking a question or writing comments, if that’s what you mean. The only automatic lurve you get is the 1 point for signing in two days in a row. Everything else comes from “attta boys”, as you put it: people clicking “great question” or “great answer” on your posts.
And @SavoirFaire was pointing out that even those don’t actually increase your total points if the user has already exceeded the lifetime allotment of lurve they can give you. This is confusing because you keep getting messages about receiving ”+5 for answering…” or ”+3 for asking….”, but the total doesn’t always move by that amount. That’s because the lurve is coming from people who’ve already maxed out for you. There’s also a limit on how many total lurve points any one comment or question can garner, regardless of the source.
@thorninmud. Unless those
lifetime lurve limits are exceptionally high, isn’t the limitation policy counterproductive? After all, if there’s one thing that none of us will dispute it is that lifetimes vary. Doesn’t that leave this as a policy punishing the veterans? Isn’t it also a damper on motivation to participate?
Yeah, as @thorninmud said, the ”+5” events on your lurve feed might as well say “Someone just gave you a GA!” You don’t actually get any lurve from those events unless it’s from people who haven’t maxed out on you already. And hey, haven’t we all?
@stanleybmanly I definitely agree that this is not a good system, for all the reasons you mention. The original intent was to prevent situations where members collude to run up lurve scores, but we now have a situation where we have almost complete “lurve stagnation” because there’s little changeover in the membership pool, and we’re all maxed out on each other.
@stanleybmanly Isn’t it also a damper on motivation to participate?
Only for those who care about Lurve and numbers. If I’m asking a question here I sure hope the people who respond want to help and don’t care about the numbers.
@dammitjanetfromvegas my concern was more from the opposite angle, granting someone a well deserved ga that goes nowhere. As Thorninmud states, it’s just a matter of time til you can’t compliment your peers with a ga. And the irony is that the more active the participant here, the sooner he or she is stripped of either receiving or bestowing the accolade.
@stanleybmanly I think most people do not really care about the lurve totals. They don’t mean anything. Personally, I value GAs as a kind of non-verbal support, not as currency to trade in for a party. Actively trying to increase one’s own lurve total seems pretty pointless. No GA “goes nowhere”, as far as I’m concerned.
I don’t disagree with what you are saying, as long as we are all aware of it. There are other ways of acknowledging a great answer. But if I intend to compliment someone, I expect the message to be delivered. This is the first I’ve heard of such a thing, and I will now pay attention.
@stanleybmanly Sure, but it sounds like “message delivered” would be different things to different people. I would rather you gave me a GA, even though I know it could negatively impact my lurve (ok, not negatively, but it could prevent positive impact).
@Hypocrisy_Central might prefer that you not give him a GA, so that people who aren’t maxed out on him can give him lurve.
There’s not really a way to know what each person prefers; you have to do what you think is appropriate.
In short, nothing has changed in regards to how Lurve is awarded or accumulated and nothing is going to – there is no current site development.
@thorninmud That’s because the lurve is coming from people who’ve already maxed out for you. There’s also a limit on how many total lurve points any one comment or question can garner, regardless of the source.
I can bet my donuts to anyone’s dollars that no one has maxed out on me here, and won’t.
@dappled_leaves I think most people do not really care about the lurve totals. They don’t mean anything. Personally, I value GAs as a kind of non-verbal support, not as currency to trade in for a party.
Here, it seems that is the prevailing use of the lurve as to support someone’s position as correct over another, no matter how illogical or untrue that comment may be. However, since I was never in that clique, for me it is an artificial marker on when to exit, after certain level of awards have been garnered.
@Hypocrisy_Central Actually, I can see that at least ten people have maxed out on you, and probably many more (how do I collect my donuts?).
@Hypocrisy_Central “it seems that is the prevailing use of the lurve as to support someone’s position as correct over another”
Well, sure. That’s one reason I give out GAs. If I agree with one person’s position in a discussion about two opposing positions, then I give a GA. I can’t imagine why someone wouldn’t, in that situation.
And, for the record, I know I maxed out on you a loooong time ago, even though we disagree on a lot of issues.
@thorninmud Actually, I can see that at least ten people have maxed out on you, and probably many more (how do I collect my donuts?)
One person, who believed she has, gave herself up. I would ask you to show proof but I do not want to embarrass anyone by having you pull their covers. But, if it works as has been said above, then everyone would be near the same level, given the amount of influx of new members who have not maxed out on anyone. If what is said above is true, then it would be near impossible to hit the Blackbeard, Titan, or any of those Buck Rodger counts as there would not be enough new people to propel them up there. Also true would be 92% of Flutheronians have not maxed out on me because there have been members with less activity reach Admiral so far ahead of me even if they left a dust trail it would have been gone three weeks before I got to it. If the only lurve one got was cashed in by other users, then when I ask a question even before anyone else sees it, and it tells me I got three lurve for it, is basically a lie or disingenuous at best.
Maybe I will have to retool my exit strategy.
@dappled_leaves Well, sure. That’s one reason I give out GAs. If I agree with one person’s position in a discussion about two opposing positions, then I give a GA
I guess that is where I differ. First I don’t hand out lurve like lollipops, and I don’t just hand to out to people I like, or give them to people who got a dig in on those who always heckle me. Even if the point was made on something I totally disagree with, if they made a logical enough point, I give a GA, if the question was truly thought provoking or something I feel was on a lot of people’s mind but they felt it too dumb to ask, I give a GQ, but with a 100 lifetime lurve I am very judicious on how I sling them around.
I’ve still never figured out how to tell if I’ve maxed out on someone. But I’m probably maxed out on everyone
@Hypocrisy_Central You do not—repeat, do not—get three points for asking a question unless someone clicks Great Question on your post.
Think about this for a second: you have this idea in your head that nobody here likes you. All this time you’ve been thinking that that lurve just comes your way because some computer somewhere dumps it in your account for typing some text in a box, when actually real flesh and blood people here have been trying to show you that they appreciate you. Maybe its about time for you to drop the “everybody hates me” routine.
((seriously though, how often have we seen spammers with “1” Lurve. If they’ve asked a question, wouldn’t they have, at minimum, four total if they got +3 just for asking a question? How have you not noticed this in 6 years?))
I’m maxed out on everyone that has been even moderately active in the past 2 years.
It was fun having the heritage members return for a bit because I could give lurve that added to their totals.
@Hypocrisy_Central “First I don’t hand out lurve like lollipops, and I don’t just hand to out to people I like, or give them to people who got a dig in on those who always heckle me.”
I don’t do either of these things. I’m not sure how you’re reading this into what I wrote.
“Even if the point was made on something I totally disagree with, if they made a logical enough point, I give a GA, if the question was truly thought provoking or something I feel was on a lot of people’s mind but they felt it too dumb to ask, I give a GQ”
I actually give GAs for those things, too. And for things that make me laugh. Every one of us has different criteria for what constitutes a “great answer”. How could it be otherwise?
The way I look at it, the issue here isn’t whether or not the (ga)s or (gq)s matter. What matters is that the gods responsible for this place included them in its design for our use. If a situation results wherein the veterans and those who frequent the site most are the FIRST to be deprived of the their usage, then we are arguably better off without them,
@Seek I’ve still never figured out how to tell if I’ve maxed out on someone. But I’m probably maxed out on everyone
I guess if you GA or GQ someone and they did not immediately or shortly thereafter show up on the leaderboard (or whatever you want to call it) then you maxed out on them. I myself can’t recall anyone I have GA or GQ to where they never showed me having given it to them, but I am very judicious in handing them out, so maybe that is why.
You do not—repeat, do not—get three points for asking a question unless someone clicks Great Question on your post.
If that is the fact it takes starch out of your second comment. That would explain why the dust was gone three weeks before I even got in the tail wind of those who joined within days of me, or the fact I could count a 9 question marathon without a single GQ (before the question were just fluff). I never said everyone here has me in the crosshairs, but thank heavens I got to the 1st foreclosed mansion before the bulk of supporters I did have took off to the Bahamas or something. Had I known that fact, I may never have come back when they mini-banned me. ~~
@ibstubro It was fun having the heritage members return for a bit because I could give lurve that added to their totals.
Heritage numbers? A feature that went dark somewhere in the past?
@Hypocrisy_Central “I guess if you GA or GQ someone and they did not immediately or shortly thereafter show up on the leaderboard (or whatever you want to call it) then you maxed out on them. ”
No, this is incorrect. As has been said before in this thread, every GA will always show up in your lurve feed as ”+5” and will always show up in the community feed as “Hypocrisy_Central received a GA”, but this does not mean that your lurve score goes up.
To the best of my knowledge, the only way people can tell if they’re maxed out on someone is to give them a GA, then refresh to see if their total goes up in response. It sounds like mods have the ability to just look up who is maxed out on whom, though. That’s news to me.
If I recall correctly, there’s a separate figuring for GAs and GQs… such that someone can be maxed out on GAs, but still increase the person’s lurve by GQs until that max has also been reached. Not sure about that, though – maybe a mod can confirm. I’m not very good at remembering to give people GQs, so it’s not really on my radar as much as GAs are.
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@dappled_leaves No, this is incorrect. As has been said before in this thread, every GA will always show up in your lurve feed as ”+5” and will always show up in the community feed as “Hypocrisy_Central received a GA”, but this does not mean that your lurve score goes up.
Thank you for that revelation (pity I did not known that two years ago), it is greatly irrelevant now less how it affects the end, but knowing that now, it certainly comes into play.
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