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What do you think about the new theory that Jar Jar Binks is a Sith Lord?

Asked by filmfann (52519points) November 6th, 2015

Here is a reading of a reddit theory that has stirred up a lot of controversy. Could it have been Lucas’ plan for the most hated character in either trilogy to have a huge reveal?

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ragingloli's avatar

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
And Obi Wan Kenobi is a Gungan

ragingloli's avatar

Or did you misspell “Shit lord”?

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Read it too. just like the joker theory

canidmajor's avatar

I think it’s just as cute as most “considered” theories having to do with the plots of goofy science fiction movies.
I love it. I hope there are more fun theories out there!

ragingloli's avatar

This all hinges on one assumption: that George Lucas is actually a good writer.
He is not. He is one of the biggest hacks that ever lived.

ucme's avatar

I think…precisely fuck all about it.
See, i’m on of those guys who watches & enjoys films, sometimes uses quotes in everyday life & maybe buys the occasional tee-shirt, yeah, I got me some Tarantino shit.
But, all this fanboy crap, debating the fucking origins of characters & where the far end of a fart emits from whoever’s arsehole…not for me man.

funkdaddy's avatar

@ucme – but what’s in the case man?!?! What’s in the case?!

ucme's avatar

@funkdaddy Verne Troyer’s gold member.

ragingloli's avatar

A VHS tape from the day he was raped by a thousand monkeys.

Seek's avatar

Well, we all know that every film since A New Hope has been littered with “fan theories” made real after the fact because George Lucas lost the ability to have an original thought in, oh, 1968.

Even the original Star Wars is so blatantly stolen piecemeal from much better Science Fiction that Frank Herbert and others found it so pathetic they made up the We’re Too Big to Sue George Lucas Society.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

As much as I love star wars (empire anyway) I agree, the story not just sucks…it’s like country music: derivative, thoughtless, uninspiring and generally devoid of creative, original ideas. The model builders and John Williams actually made the films worthwhile.

ragingloli's avatar

And the editors.

majorrich's avatar

Meesa thinkin’ he would have to tie his ears back so he doesn’t cut them off

funkdaddy's avatar

Look at Ralph McQuarrie’s paintings and remember most of them were done before the movies.

Google image search for Ralph McQuarrie

The parts people tend to love are the parts he added.

Rarebear's avatar

I recently went through the 6 movies with my 14 year old. We did it in the order 4,5,6,1,2,3 and saw the remastered movies (the one where Han didn’t shoot first and without the teddy bear picnic at the end of episode 6). She liked the first three.

Then we watched episode 1. She said, “That was kind of bad. Does it get better?” I had to break it to her that episode 2 was far worse. When we saw Episode 3 with the final fight scene on the lava flows she had the exact reaction I did which was, “There would be no way they could breath down there—it would be too hot”.

And like the good girl she is, she hated Jar Jar.

gorillapaws's avatar

@Rarebear Sounds like she’s living proof that you’re an excellent parent.

filmfann's avatar

The correct sequence is 4, 5, 1, 2, Clone Wars movie, 3, then 6. That maintains the tension of Han in the carbonite, and the mystery of “another” potential Jedi. It also would show Luke’s hope/belief that the good has not been completely rid from Vader.

trolltoll's avatar

I want to believe

Rarebear's avatar

I never saw the Clone Wars movie. I heard it was terrible.

jerv's avatar

The “Jar-jar is a Sith lord” theory is still a better love story than Twilight.

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As for the best viewing order, I think that the Machete order is good. It goes 4, 5, 2, 3, 6….. and drops Episode 1 entirely. They have a long, detailed explanation, but I’ll give a TL:DR version.

Two of the biggest arguments for dropping 1 are midichlorians and Jar-Jar. Midichlorians are only mentioned once briefly in the next two movies, while Jar-jar only have five lines in 2 and none in 3. Also, as they put it;

“Every character established in Episode I is either killed or removed before it ends (Darth Maul, Qui-Gon, Chancellor Valorum), unimportant (Nute Gunray, Watto), or established better in a later episode (Mace Windu, Darth Sidious). ”

That makes Episode 1 irrelevant. Viewing 4 and 5 lays the groundwork for a prequel; you go from “I am your father!” to a two movie long flashback scene of young Anakin (2 and 3) before returning to the “Rebels crush the Empire” ending. It also keeps the whole “Leia is Luke’s sister” thing dramatically secret (in other words, does a better reveal) while omitting the annoying “little innocent pod-racing Ani” diversion (complete with gratuitous CGI ad nauseum) and getting right to the “angry yet oddly sympathetic Ani” that becomes Lord Vader. No Padme/bodyguard swap, glosses over the Padme/Anakin age gap (Padme is a cougar instead of a pedophile), Palpatine doesn’t attempt to recruit Anakin until later… it just works better.

talljasperman's avatar

R2D2 is the only character in all of the films.

Seek's avatar

@jerv I kind of like that.

Seek's avatar

Sort of related:

Ian asked to watch Star Wars tonight. The only version we have in the house is the 1992 FOX video VHS release.

The credits list the copyright date as 1977.

David Prowse is the only credited person under Darth Vader. James Earl Jones is not mentioned anywhere.

No one in the Cantina is credited either, actually.

gorillapaws's avatar

@jerv when are you supposed to watch “A Caravan of Courage” and “Battle for Endor?”

ragingloli's avatar

The only correct order is 4 5 6, and ignore the rest.

filmfann's avatar

@jerv. Episode 1 is important because it establishes that Aniken was full of goodness as a child.

jerv's avatar

@filmfann It doesn’t take a full-length feature film to establish that. Most movies manage that in the first act… or at least the properly-written ones do.

Cut a little CGI porn from Episode 2 to make room for a prologue of little orphan Ani, and you could probably still get more of that than you did from Episode 1 with all of it’s utterly irrelevant diversions, dead-end side-plots, and an absurdly long commercial for the upcoming Pod-racing© video game from Lucas Studios®.

Seriously, a lot of Episode 1 was focused on things other than a pod-racing prodigy with an obscene midichlorian count. It was almost as though Lucas was saying, “Hey, I’ve had all these stupid ideas since Episode 6 came out, and we have these wicked cool computers that are much better than they were in the ‘80s that I want to try out, so let’s make a prequel!”. There was so much going on that Anakin got lost in the action.

Put another way, there was so little of young Anakin there that you could edit those bits down and wind up with something shorter than many TV sit-coms; plenty small enough to tack on to the beginning of Episode 2 without having to cut much from Episode 2 to keep the run time under 2½ hours.

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