Now that the Keystone XL oil pipeline is canceled then what options does Alberta have to ship oil?

Keystone XL was designed to feed oil tanker exports. Why cross the entire USA? Build a pipeline to Vancouver. No need for US approval.

@jaytkay The First Nations natives don’t want it in British Columbia.

Build a damn refinery at the damn tar sands site, and refine it to a state that isn’t so freakin environmentally hazardous if and when a spill happens, but neither Government seems to want to go that way for some dumb reason.

@SQUEEKY2 Thanks. Great idea.

@talljasperman I see.

I don’t have the answer. I have seen 200-car oil trains moving through Chicago. The kind of train that blew up in Quebec and destroyed a town.

The pipeline might be a good idea like nuclear power is a good idea.

It sucks but it sucks less than the alternatives.

Moving volatile cargo seems to be problematic. I watched The Rachel Maddow news program earlier this week. 11/12/15. This particular news story made me get chills that have not subsided yet. As she states, no mention by any news agency (nor governmental, come to think of it…) about this type of daily transportation situation has been made. Nothing.

Please. Take a peek.
Rachel Maddow, CNBC-

http://youtu.be/yB26j96paBY

Now, could you imagine a security threat to a pipeline?
Yow.

Alberta does have other pipelines. Moving its oil is not greatly hindered by the death of Keystone XL. In fact, my understanding is that beyond the environmental controversies, Keystone XL was pretty much dead anyway due to a lack of support from oil producers. Lower oil prices plus increasing oil production in other regions had made it fairly unattractive, profit-wise.

The correct answer, is to stop trying to get oil out of the Tar Sands.

@Zaku That is the correct ethical,environmental answer, but as long as big business can make a dollar doing it, and the rest of the world needs the fuel ,do you think they care???

Yes, I think people do care, and if they don’t, they’re fools, misled, or ill informed. It’s the job of the rest of us to keep telling the others, and stopping the corrupt, as best we can. The longer everyone stays in denial, the worse the results are going to be, and the more suffering will happen.

True, but in the end it’s the almighty dollar that gets everyones attention, not the environment.

No. In the end, we either stop abusing our planet so much, or we get into much more serious trouble than we otherwise will. “The almighty dollar” is an imaginary game that is having us destroy our world. The Earth and the functioning of its ecosystems are real, and we really depend on them. Most of us also care about the Earth and its other creatures more than we care about corporate economies, especially before we get “educated” – ask any children if they’d rather have huge rich companies make lots more money for a while, or have polar bears and thousands of other animals not die off, and endanger all life on Earth. We need to get our thinking outside of its current boxes, and the sooner the better.

YOU’RE TOTALLY RIGHT, but it aint going to happen because we are all trying to chase that all mighty dollar$$$ and planet earth comes last,of course a kid would want polar bears instead of refineries, but ask the workers who work there supporting their families with well paying jobs if they feel the same way.
SAD but earning a living supporting a family comes first, and by doing so we are killing the earth, and by the time anyone wakes up, the planet will be long dead.
Have to say another reason why we chose not to have children, hopefully it will saty alive during my life span, but can’t be to sure about the children being born today.

Speak for yourself. I’m not “trying to chase that all mighty dollar$$$”, and planet Earth certainly does not come last for me. I would say the same for most of my friends and family, too. I’d also say you understand and care, even if you’re stuck in negative old thoughts about it.

As for “workers who work there supporting their families”, they need to be taken care of too, just not in a way that is harmful.

Many people don’t get that, but many people do. For people who do, the question is how to shift the world’s conversations out of the dead-end boxes they are in, and into something with room for a preferable future.

It doesn’t require changing everyone’s mind. It’s more about shifting ideas and getting the new ideas and perspectives where the decisions are made. And fortunately, you and I don’t need to do that ourselves, but we can help by speaking the truth and not being resigned and cynical and defeated about it. Even if you aren’t optimistic, surely it doesn’t help much to repeat the stuck in a rut truisms of thought ruts that lead to an awful future.

I agree that we “can’t be to[o] sure about the children being born today”, but we can still care about them, and least enough to be interested in the possibility of a survivable future based on acknowledging the situation and changing things for the better, rather than staying locked inside known sick ideas that lead to a doom.