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Can America sustain the rate of one+ mass shootings per day*?

Asked by ibstubro (18804points) December 2nd, 2015

(incidents where four or more people are killed or injured by gunfire)
The website with the most current information to date was unavailable to me, but this is from 1–1 to 10–1-15. I believe that’s a mass shooting every 22 hours.

Might be a work-around showing 352 mass shootings this year-to-date, or 335 days.

Semiautomatic handgun used in over 40% of the attacks.

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Tropical_Willie's avatar

I’m so sorry to hear of this kind of statistic.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

Apparently, yes. As horrific as that thought is.

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jaytkay's avatar

Can we sustain this? Sure, if the paranoid culture among angry white conservatives is maintained. It will increase when another Democrat becomes president.

majorrich's avatar

Detroit averages 5.2 shootings per week. Only a couple more days to cover to get one a day. That’s only one city! Add in DC and Chicago and every day was a multiple shooting day last year. We’ve been doing it for years. Probably will be for quite a while.

funkdaddy's avatar

Had trouble believing @majorrich‘s 5.2 shooting per week in Detroit alone (not a comment on him, just seems like a lot for city under 700k people) So went looking for numbers. It’s even worse than that. It’s 17.6 nonfatal shootings per week AND 5.2 homicides (of all types) according to this article in the Detroit Free Press as of June this year. 2.5+ a day.

damn

stanleybmanly's avatar

Sustain? You ain’t seen nothin yet. The mass murder statistics are certain to rise appreciably considering the mind boggling numbers of guns loose in the country.

Lightlyseared's avatar

Yes. Well up until the point there isn’t enough of you left to call it a mass shooting.

Thammuz's avatar

Just FYI, European media have stopped reporting on this shit because it’s literally “eh, it’s the US, what do you expect”.

Get your shit together people.

ibstubro's avatar

Sorry the question was so confusing – it was pushed to moderation and seems to have died.

Thanks to all who saw past the illiteracy and answered.

Personally, I can only answer that Donald Trump seems to be living proof that rhetoric trumps reality in modern day America.
Chant “We need more guns!” loud an long enough and you’ll win out.

majorrich's avatar

We don’t need more guns, I think he means we need less confusing, contradictory and stupid legislation regarding them. As a former service member, I see value in training. I see value in non-wacko. I see value in thwarting obvious straw purchase. I also see that the problem is not the gun. It is the will of the operator that is flawed. We had a good lesson in Bible study. One never sins by accident. You know you aren’t supposed to cheat on your wife, you know you shouldn’t shoplift, you know you shouldn’t kill someone. But you do anyway! Why can’t people learn to learn to obey the law?

I’ve had guns for over half a century. I’ve yet to see one fly out of the locker and go up to the gas station and rob it. I have knives that have never stabbed anyone. It’s all in the operator. Until we can learn to fix stupid, we will always have people using dangerous pointy things to hurt, maim and kill each other.

cazzie's avatar

Norway uses the expression, “That is so Texas” meaning “that is so crazy and unbelievable.” They have used this expression for over a decade.

ibstubro's avatar

I’m not challenging you in any way, @cazzie, but do you have documentation of “That is so Texas” meaning “that is so crazy and unbelievable.”

I want to use it, but I source my inflammatory stuff. lol

I hope it wasn’t just “W” Bush.

cazzie's avatar

@ibstubro My girlfriend now tells me it dates back to the 50’s. If you want source, I sure hope you can read Norwegian. I’ll find you a link: http://www.nrk.no/nordland/slik-oppstod-uttrykket-helt-texas-i-spraket-vart-1.12617314

It basically says that the expression first shows up in a book from 1957. More to do with the Wild West films people were watching at that time, but now, it has been adopted and used more frequently.

ibstubro's avatar

And a link from within your link, @Tropical_Willie.

Thanks!

stanleybmanly's avatar

Well there’s more than frontier justice involved with Texas as a pejorative. My big concern is with the question: how has it become possible that the bulk of the country is on its way toward turning to the place as the model for our future?

cazzie's avatar

How has the right to bear arms turned into open season on people who are momentarily, anecdotally seen as threats, ie: Vigilante Justice? Making the average Joe-conceal-carry into judge, jury and executioner in the blink of an eye? At the speed of a fired, semi or fully automatic bullet?

Strauss's avatar

@cazzie It’s not only conceal-carry mindset; it’s also the “Make my day!” mindset. This is seen as an extension of the Fourth Amendment, The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures.

However, it is more directly related to the “stand-your-ground” philosophy, which states you should be secure in any place that you are legally allowed. A concealed/carry would in addition, allow you to use deadly defensive force if you feel threatened.

cazzie's avatar

THAT, @Yetanotheruser , is exactly what I mean. You aren’t telling me anything new. This is a stupefying state of affairs that is only going to get worse. When, in the state of history-ever-lasting, was more bullets and guns ever going to end up with nothing less than more innocents killed and more injustice that could never be rectified?

Strauss's avatar

I can’t answer that. The legends of the Wild West and the idea of Rugged Individualism have become romanticized as a part of what we might call the American Psyche.

funkdaddy's avatar

Sorry about the governors, the politicians, and the killing.

Other than that, really, come see Texas before you make a decision. It’s so awful that 3 of the 5 fastest growing cities in the US are here.

Come see, experience, and then judge. Even the Norwegians like it ;)

stanleybmanly's avatar

That’s true. Texas is like its own country. I mean you got Austin and you got Houston.

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