What do countries do to handle what happened in Germany to those women on New Years?

WTH? I knew nothing about this. If they are assaulting women and aren’t citizens, ship them out. Ship out the actual criminals, not every immigrant from the same place as the criminals.

Is this really true?

Isn’t every square millimeter of ground covered with surveillance cameras? There has to be plenty of evidence. Is it just being suppressed?
Germany as to do something quickly or their credibility, and tourism trade, will be destroyed.

I have been hearing about this for over a week now and am perplexed why more is not being said or done about it. Yesterday I heard Merkel has now made it a criminal offense if anyone speaks badly about Muslims. Sure when creeper Muslims are raping your women make it illegal to talk badly about them. 0_o

Well, of course there will be no investigations or criminal proceedings, because in Germany, there are no laws against rape.

@ragingloli You forgot your tilde. Do you feel it has to do with cultural values? Or, just a bunch of men being awful, and plenty of men are awful no matter what ethnicity.

Men in general are filth, but here it is exacerbated by the fact that the culture they grew up in his highly conservative and male dominated, with women seen as cattle.

@ragingloli So, what do you think about Merkel trying to dismiss it is cultural, and trying to squash discussion about it?

@ragingloli “Men in general are filth”
Fuck you~, this has more to do with the culture these immigrants come from. You don’t see gangs of rapists from civilized culture doing this. These people think we are infidels and deserve it. They have the backing of their crazy religion when they do it. I think it is time for society to start being less tolerant of religion. That is an extreme view but it’s one that I am starting to have.

@JLeslie
I would like to have a source for that.

@ragingloli My only source is what @Cruiser said above.

@ragingloli Link

@ARE_you_kidding_me The law does trump religion. Men can’t rape women in Germany and ask to be excused for it in the name of religion. Religious freedom and separation from state is one thing, but people still have to follow the law.

@Cruiser
Thank you for that link.
Here are some examples of “anyone speaking badly about muslims” from that article.
“The offensive views include
an online post of a hangman’s noose as one solution to the refugee crisis,
a quip by a right-wing politician about the breeding habits of Africans, as well as
a comment made by a controversial speaker at an anti-migrant rally lamenting the closure of World War II-era concentration camps.”
Are you saying that supporting another holocaust is “just speaking badly about muslims”?

In Oslo, we have packs of rabid, racist cops who break up any groups of brown skinned males.

But what we also have and it has gone a bit out of fashion now, but I wish it would pick back up is an organisation called Nattravene. Here is some info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natteravnene

@cazzie Are you saying you are fine with the profiling?

@JLeslie I don’t think I would have called them ‘rabid’ or ‘racisist’ if I was fine with the profiling. Don’t you think?

Like @LuckyGuy, I want to know where the videos are. Public cameras, private surveillance cameras, cell phone video.
This was one of my first thoughts when I learned of the attacks.

@cazzie I was just checking my assumption.

@ragingloli Over here “quips” and “comments” are protected by our First Amendment of our Constituion. I don’t condone acts of violence as a solution to ones perceived problems, or am I comfortable with racist, bigoted and hateful verbalization’s, but I am used to seeing/hearing it and often amused by blowhard racists ranting on their soapboxes or worse, the weak tits who hide behind anonymous hateful racist rants posted on blogs and I secretly wish they would all grow up and get a life. I know a perfect world will never exist.

Yes the ignorant dickheads who articulate their racist hatred in public are bad for the peace and harmony of our society but Government censorship IMO is much much worse. That said, I do support the “imminent danger” test our Supreme Court put in place to allow for where the ‘hateful’ speaker has the intention to incite such action and there is the likelihood that this will be the consequence of his or her speech, may be restricted and punished by that law. I don’t see this to be the case in the quips and quotes you cited from the article.

@Cruiser
Here is the thing:
Those “Volksverhetzungs” laws have been the law of the land in Germany since the end of WW2.
All that is potentially changing is the expansion of the realm of enforcement.

@JLeslie I realize the law does but they don’t recognize it if it is contrary to their beliefs.

@ragingloli Do people over there ever get arrested and convicted under your “Volksverhetzungs” laws? I just did a search on hate speech convictions here and even the most egregious acts of hate speech arrests which included cross burning and inciting racial riots, were overturned by our Supreme courts.

I guess Angela Merkel is safe then, no one would go within a billion miles of her “action”

@JLeslie and what exactly what was your ‘assumption’?

@Cruiser
according to this
several thousand cases a year. i do not know how many of those end in convictions, but recently a far right politician was sentenced to 6 months in prison (on probation) for publically displaying a tattoo of a concentration camp with the text “to each his own”.

There is still more hate per kilometre here in Europe than most places on Earth, I’m afraid.

@cazzie Knowing you I assumed you felt the profiling was awful. When I read your comment I wasn’t sure, so I thought I would ask. I think of you as being very color blind to race and ethnicity (in the good way) and for a moment I wasn’t sure if rape and violence against women might trump that a little.

@ARE_you_kidding_me All saying is they still get thrown in jail. Religion won’t protect them from the law in those cases. It isn’t asking to pray for ten minutes at the workplace.

@JLeslie um….. no. And if you read about the Night Ravens you would have seen what I was supporting rather than the asshole, butthead coppers.

@ragingloli From what I find on the net, the Volksverhetzungs was obviously created to control hate speech on the holocaust and even today still applies mostly to holocaust hate crimes. Do you see that Merkels recent pronouncement about hate speech/actions against Muslims to be distinct from the Volksverhetzungs or a extension or expansion of the laws intent and purpose. Also I noted that the Volksverhetzungs casts a pretty wide net to where even a mere holocaust hate whisper could land you in prison.

Those laws were never meant to only apply to Jews, but to everyone.
It is mostly applied to Holocaust related incidents because those are still the most prevalent.

Say no to the Syrian refugees, who aren’t refugees anyway. I think two here in the states has already gotten into trouble too. It’s not rocket science.

If history means anything, they will sooner cover this up. The reason I say this is because in the United Kingdom, 1,400 children were sexually abused by muslim pakistanis in the city of Rotherham between 1997 and 2013 and this was covered up because authorities were scared to publicize or investigate the crimes for fears of being branded islamophobic and racist.

We can see this happening now in the german city Cologne where the mayor is blaming the victims for not doing a better job at preventing enticement. The mayor says she plans on releasing online guidelines for women on how this can be done.

These rapes and sexual abuse epidemics by these migrant men have been going on way before this New Year’s incident. Places like Norway, Denmark and Sweden are actually offering pre-requisite classes to migrants to teach them that rape isn’t allowed in their countries. A lot of the media have gag orders including the government officials to cover up such incidents.

At this point, these inactivities to combat sexual violence rests on a narrative that proclaims multiculturalism is more important than women’s human rights.

@katykit “Places like Norway, Denmark and Sweden are actually offering pre-requisite classes to migrants to teach them that rape isn’t allowed in their countries. A lot of the media have gag orders including the government officials to cover up such incidents.”

Source, please?

link

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal.

Wow, @katykit.
Just, wow.

@ibstubro We all go to culture and language training as immigrants here to Norway. There were posters up in the police station aimed at certain demographics that beating your wife and children is not acceptable here. Another poster, one in the women’s toilet, was a PSA for what you can do if you or someone you know is under pressure for FGM. Now, they’ve organised formal classes for men to attend so they can understand what they were used to in their old countries would get them arrested and their children taken away here. It isn’t that complicated.

Those same classes tell us what our rights are as employees here, which are usually also very different from what we were used to.

It’s good the government lets people, new immigrants, know differences in the cultures and laws. It’s only fair. It would be awful to be new to a country and wind up in jail, because you had no idea something you were doing was illegal.

It’s impossible to ignore that some of these men are raised thinking women are there for the taking sexually, and whatever else they feel like demanding at the time. These incidences, and the admitting that those things are ok in some cultures and countries moves me further away from being accepting of different cultures, and closer to labeling them barbaric. We should interfere.

@katykit Thanks.