What do you do with a principal who sent (if fact) student home without his winter coat in the freezing cold?

I don’t know of any school that releases a child early without parental pickup. My immediate thought is “What did the parent do about it?”

Maybe the parents didn’t do anything, I don’t know. Or maybe the parent were on the principal’s side, who knows. But what I want to know is what is should the school board or the law do about it? And the student is around 16 or 17 or so

How about if an employer did it to an employee (where it’s not unionized) I wonder?

@flo please find the article. This would stop conjectures about what did or didn’t happen.

Needs much more info.

@Tropical_Willie and @Zaku
I am trying to find the article. I may never find it. Also it may not have all the info. Let’s put it this way, imagine if it’s your job to inform people from other (very different) countries. That is , If this kind of thing ever happens this is your right” etc.

How does a principal send someone home without their coat? Are all coats checked in at his office or something? Honestly, this doesn’t sound at all like a realistic situation.

An employer can send an employee home for a variety of reasons. But they can’t force them to leave their coat behind. If that was done to an employee, the employee would be within his rights to call the police so that he could get his coat.

And a union has nothing to do with it one way or the other.

@Darth_Algar It could be that the principal walked him out of the school not letting him/her go to the coat. “No, you can’t get your coat”. Is it realistic that a parent drowned her children? All kinds of things have happened already, genocide even. So I don’t know what you mean by “realistic”

@zenvelo But what if let’s say the employee didn’t call the police? What would happen to the principal or employer?

What would happen to the hypothetical tyrant if the hypothetical victim never called the hypothetical authorities?

Hypothetically, not a damned thing.

Let’s say the parents called the authorities got a lawyer etc.?

@flo – I have an idea: Why not figure out what exactly the story is, and then ask us what we think about the outcome of the story? Because right now all we have is for some reason a kid went home without his coat and for no clear reason we’re blaming the principal.

For all we know, a kid lost his coat at a pizza parlor on the way home, and made up a story so his mother wouldn’t be mad at him.

There is just not enough accurate info here. Any of our responses would just be guessing.

That’s what is meant by “not realistic”.

First of all, this should be in Social, not General.

Second of all, if it did happen at school, I would think the kid would call his parent and tell them. Then again, there’s a big difference between it happening in a place with 20 degree weather and a place where the weather is 60 degrees.

If it did happen at school or at work, there are two sides to every story.

I agree we’re all playing guessing games. It’s all hypothetical. Article please or if there’s no article, it’s just a big “what if.”

Hypothetically if I was 16 or 17 and my hypothetical principal tried to force me out of the hypothetical school without allowing me to grab my hypothetical coat then I would hypothetically call the police and inform them of a hypothetical attempted theft.

A minor would not be physically removed from a school and dumped on the doorstep. Just saying.

Do you mean this article? http://www.wbtv.com/story/27979398/mother-upset-after-teacher-takes-childrens-coats-sends-them-home-in-the-cold

@ReadingHouses :: Seems to have found the story.

I wonder if the teacher was a Trump supporter….

“After hecklers repeatedly interrupted the GOP presidential candidate during a Thursday night rally in Vermont, Trump demanded guards kick out the protesters — and demanded that security staffers steal one of their jackets.”

“Keep his coat! Confiscate his coat! You know it’s about 10 degrees below zero outside,” the boisterous billionaire barked from the stage. “You can keep his coat. Tell him we’ll send it to him in a couple of weeks.”

A year ago in Charlotte NC the temp was around, 50°. Hardly life threatening.

Is this the most important thing that has happened in the past year, or merely the most interesting? ~~

And, it wasn’t the Principal, but a teacher. And the teacher was dealt with.

How far was the kids house? How cold was it? Did the principal do it as a punishment? The link to the story didn’t open for me.

If it was 50 degrees, as mentioned above, and the kid’s house was a half mile or less and he was otherwise dressed warm, it wouldn’t be a big deal, unless the principal actually didn’t allow the teen to use his coat. My assumption is the teen went to school without one.

“imagine if it’s your job to inform people from other (very different) countries. That is , If this kind of thing ever happens this is your right” etc.”

I’m sorry but I don’t really follow what the story is enough to answer, and I think the details of what the people were like and what the situation was matter a lot.

If I have to guess what you mean, it seems like you’re asking about a situation where there is a 16–17-year old student in a high school from some very foreign warm-climate location, and the school is probably a government-run school in a part of the USA that is having very freezing weather, and the school principal told the student to go home and that he couldn’t stay at the school for warmth and wait to be fetched by his family, even though the principal knew the kid had no winter coat. Your wording “what do you do with a principal” implies to me that there are probably other circumstances that in the story frame the principal as being inappropriate. Yes?

As regards any situation where school authorities seem to perhaps be acting inappropriately towards children and there is a complaint, I think it should be seriously investigated by well-trained people to determine the actual nature of the situation, so that any sort of child abuse is corrected.

In cases where it’s determined that school authorities are behaving inappropriately towards kids, such as (assuming this is an accurate assessment) kicking a kid clearly without adequate clothing out into health-threatening conditions, when they could easily have let them stay warm till the family got them, or loaned them a coat or blanket to get home with, or arranged a ride for them or something, then I’d assign a trained person to investigate the principal, understand what the malfunction is, find any other problems with him, correct those problems, and make sure the situation is fixed, or else replace him.

Here’s an article, No wonder you thought of it @johnpowell
that fits the description.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-demands-guards-coat-vt-rally-protester-article-1.2489843