(NSFW) Do you think you have seen/heard it all before?

Nothing really surprises me any more, most people are quite ill mentally .
At least we won’t worry about this freak for for the next 11 years and hopefully longer.

@SQUEEKY2 Now you are scaring me. Do you really mean that “most people are quite mentally ill” that most of my neighbors and the Jellies here are knitting outerwear out of other peoples pets? O_O

You never know do you??

@SQUEEKY2 What I do know is one out of ten people are under medically supervised care for mental illness and 1 out of ten is a lot less than most people. I guess if what you are saying is true then that must mean the other 8 out of ten are self medicating and that is REALLY scary!

Google Vince Lee. He decapitated a gray hound bus passenger and is found not criminally responsible duty to mental illness. He is getting set free.

There are indeed crazy people walking our streets. As with the homeless among us, a conscious and deliberate choice has been made to look the other way. It turns out that the places now leading the country in providing mental health care are the prisons.

@stanleybmanly To me this plays into why we have mass shootings…same caliber of nut jobs involved that our society as a whole deliberately ignores…almost like if we don’t acknowledge their sketchy behaviors maybe they will get better on their own or grow out of it.

Am I shocked by what these people do? Hell yes! But I am even more shocked by how little we do to help these people who are in hindsight twisted in a knot ready to snap and the truly sad part is someone who knew these whack-jobs knew that they were one straw away from breaking bad and did nothing.

You’re right, that this is exactly why we have mass shooting epidemics. But believe me, the ease with which defective people can get their hands on lethal weaponry, is right up there with closing down the mental hospitals when it comes to serial or mass gun violence.

Um, Hannibal did not harm animals.

He only killed humans, and then only those who deserved it by being rude.

@stanleybmanly You are also correct and as much as I “like” my guns I am at the same time uncomfortable at how easy it is for me to buy them. In comparison (not that I yet need it) if I were to have a need for Viagra or Cialis I would first have to see my physician who would then have to see a need and write a prescription…I in turn would need to go to the nearest pharmacy who would then tell me that my prescription is not covered by insurance and that each pill would cost me $60.00 out of pocket. Imagine for a second if buying a gun and bullets for that matter required a similar protocol that we all have to go along with and aside from the uninsured costs, consider “normal” and what that alone might do to interrupt the momentary eruption of insane thoughts a “mass shooter” is experiencing if or when they are having a melt down?

Presuming a crazy person has a family, that family us in contact with them, is aware of their craziness, and had the desire to remedy the situation…

What do you presume this mythical family should have done, exactly? The law sort of frowns upon chaining people to the basement floor.

@Seek “this law”, instead of chaining loved ones to the basement floor does allow for simply locking them in the basement provided you toss them a People magazine down the stairs each month. They consider this humane.

Trust me, doesn’t work. They get out. Of course, I don’t have a basement. That might be where I’m going wrong.

Apparently your worries @Seek exceed mine and I am suddenly glad we are not neighbors

I’m caring for a mentally ill relative. She’s mostly only a danger to herself, but seriously, I have intimate knowledge of why most family members give up when they realise there’s no outside support for mental health care. I know I can’t take on my bipolar brother.

@Seek That has to be no fun whatsoever and a double whammy on top of it. Been there myself and when your fingers cramp up from crossing them in hope things will get better and they cramp up…you know you are going through the wringer. Sorry to hear you are going down this rocky road.

So am I.

So maybe, just maybe, don’t blame Puppy Coat on his family members?

In a country where people are voting for Trump in huge numbers, nowt surprises me.

They are just dogs.

Woah, why are we using crazy and mentally ill so loosely? The sicko mentioned by the OP is an extreme psychopath. If 10% of people are under some sort of mental health treatment, I’ll just assume that stat is correct for now, that’s probably everything from women trying to find themselves to much more extreme conditions. There aren’t tons of psychopaths committing serial murders.

And seriously.
Millions of animals, including their children, are butchered everyday for food, in the most gruesome ways.
In other countries, it is normal to eat dogs.
Cute furry animals are bred with the sole purpose of making fur coats.
And you do not bat an eye.
But ONE guy buys dogs off craigslist to do what is being done routinely across the globe, and you lose your mind, just because they are dogs.
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^^I agree with the point that people, Americans, flip out about killing dogs while eating a steak and wearing leather boots, but I didn’t read the link, is this guy torturing them? I do not want to know the details, just a yes or no.

@ragingloli @JLeslie I fail to see the hypocrisy over eating meat of previously live animals to then experiencing horror and revulsion over animals that are traditionally family pets. Livestock are quickly dispatched so they experience little to no pain…this lunatic on the other hand methodically butchered these dogs while they were alive and recorded the events to enjoy the moment over and over at his leisure.

Would you answer the same if this man butchered humans instead? Would that somehow be hypocritical to recoil in horror over what he did because we eat meat?

I guess you could go on to argue that since we eat meat and with the way we harvest this meat it would have to be OK if he first quickly dispatched his victims by blowing out their brains with compressed air first before he methodically stitched together a new raincoat.

Mods…can you please remove this question because apparently what this man did to puppy dogs is perfectly OK because I had a cheeseburger last night.

Like I said, if they were tortured it’s different than a quick slaughter. However, a life is a life. Just because we choose to domesticate them doesn’t mean they should be treated in a more humane way does it?

I eat meat, so I can’t be all righteous about it, but I can see some hypocrisy in loving a dog like a member of the family (which I totally get) and thinking a cow is just there for, milk, meat, and leather, and basically just to service my needs, even if I do those things to the point of gluttony.

I remember watching an Oprah episode about dog breeders in Pennsylvania. Many of them are Amish or PA Dutch, I don’t remember which, and they think of animals as lower than humans and have little problem with them living in abusive conditions. Seriously, some of it was downright torture. I don’t mean to say they all (the Amish or Penn Dutch) feel that way, but there is a cultural difference. Anyway, during the discussion what was mentioned was it was legal because dog breeders only have to follow the same laws that are in place for cattle. WTF?! That entire hour show no one asked, “but why would that be ok for any animal?” I don’t get it.

(Programming note)

It was not Dr. Lecter that “Does things to their skin.”

It was Jame Gumm AKA Buffalo Bill that “Skins his humps.”

“Tell me Senator, when your daughter’s on the slab, where sill it tickle you?”

Sure, there is plenty that “we can do” to prevent people from committing crimes. But I don’t want to live in that society, as it would be more like a prison – or whatever facility that @SQUEEKY2 seems to think that “most of us” belong in. No thanks.

I saw an interesting observation over the weekend that “the number of laws needed” in a society is a sort of inverse function of its general health. If we think we need “many laws” (however you define them, whether black-letter law or simple “regulations” with the force of law), then that would seem to be an indication that we live in a generally unhealthy society. Healthy, well-adjusted and humane people do not require an excess of law or other external restraint/regulation to govern their behavior.

And @ragingloli has a point about animal slaughter, however distasteful the point may be. Pigs are considered to be generally more intelligent than dogs, and we routinely slaughter them for food, leather and other products that we can obtain through rendering of their bodies. While someone picking up dogs from Craigslist and misrepresenting or lying about his intention is one thing, simply slaughtering dogs – if it’s done in some humane way – to use their meat and fur is… pretty much the same thing, isn’t it?

I get the feeling some here would be more horrified if this woman in Moscow was holding up a severed head of a pig instead of the head of a child she was babysitting.

Of course you do.