What is your opinion on Pastor Anderson's views on women's rights?
I’ve seen this Anderson character popup on my newsfeed from time to time over the years. I’ve heard him being interviewed twice on Irish radio. The first time I heard heard him being interviewed was on late night talk show we have in Ireland called “The FM104 Talk Show”. He was then interviewed a few years later on another Irish radio station, 4 FM; on the “Niall Boylan @ Night” show.
The full interview is available here if you wish to check it out. By no means am I suggesting that anyone sit through the entire hour of this interview, the first 3–4 minutes is more than enough to get the picture of what this guy is saying.
“My wife does not have equal rights, she does not have an equal place in society and when she married me; part of the vows to get married in America (I don’t know if its like that over there) is to love cherish and obey …”
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Very antiquated but of course, he’s entitled to his opinion(s).
I doubt you’ll find very many people, if anybody at all, on Fluther who will say they agree with his views.
He does not believe in women’s rights; I do.
He is a patriarchist. He is more closely aligned with Daesh and Boko Harum than he is to modern western thought.
^^Agree.
I can’t run YouTube vids without using up my internet allotment under this lousy stinking deal I have, so I read about this guy instead. I’ve never heard of him, which I am now thankful for. Evidently, he’s another fundamentalist Baptist who has started his own church based on the literal interpretation of the King James version of the Bible without error. Well, at least we know where he stands.
He’s just another jerk who deserves marginalization and ignominy. He’s right down there with that asshole who ran the Westboro Baptist Church in my book, as his belief system is no different. It is puzzling to me that Irish radio finds this guy the least bit interesting. He is a man to be ignored and not to be given radio time on any station that wants to be taken seriously.
Sounds like he is a true christian, and I do not say that sarcastically.
Anyway, he is wrong, both morally, ethically and legally.
I didn’t hear the audio, but I can tell you a lot of my friends in the South are ok with being “submissive” to their husband the way they define it. They expect their husband to not be heavy handed though. It’s more about roles in the marriage. The husband is supposed to put their wife on a pedestal and be protective of her and the family, not be domineering and abusive.
My friends in other parts of the country would never be ok with the words obey or submissive. However, a lot of us middle aged women find ourselves having followed along with our husbands taking the lead in many ways. Mostly, because they were the bread winners. We are equal in many ways, but still our life choices took a little but of a back seat, even if we chose it. It’s a weird dynamic I would not have expected.
Our former President Jimmy Carter made the news when he left his church regarding this very topic. People say he was a bad president, but whatever people I say, I think he is a wonderful man.
Anderson is a lunatic. The more telling question: Why does he have women followers in his congregation? How does that happen?
There are women who are into the idea of being submissive to a dominant man, whether for religious reasons or personal reasons.
@JLeslie really? The southern women I know here don’t put up with shit at all and I know some serious hicks. You don’t cross a southern gal. It is different here though. Women are not so coddled as they are in the larger cities.
Comparing southern rednecks and folks who grew up in a large, liberal city, especially the suburbs… I’d say so on average. It is a stereotype but one that holds true more often than not. This extends to men too, not stereotyping just women.
less coddled less cultured.
Different culture, both have high and low spots.
I never realized being an aggressive, violent redneck was something to be proud of.
less civilised.
less evolved.
genetically compromised.
Whoever said they were aggressive and violent? That’s actually offensive
I find offensive the suggestion that people who live in cities are coddled. I don’t live in a city but I am more of a “city person” than a “country person.”
On average they are (not the inner city so much though) you can be offended by that if you want.
LIkewise the suggestion that rednecks are violent and aggressive can offend you, too if that’s to your liking.
I’m still trying to figure out how city women are coddled? I’m not getting that at all.
Well, can you clarify this comment @ARE_you_kidding_me ” The southern women I know here don’t put up with shit at all and I know some serious hicks. You don’t cross a southern gal. ” You don’t cross a southern gal…or what? What happens?
@Dutchess_III
You will be found hanging from a tree. Especially if you are black.
I can’t take either of you very seriously with responses like that.
It is a well established fact that southerners are generally bad people.
Well, to be fair, we do not take you seriously, either.
Personal attacks do not add anything to a debate. Sorry, but I have to point that out.
Ps I think it’s short sighted to generalize an entire group or community. It’s actually quite classist.
This is troll sparring, it’s loli, & dutch. No attacking going on, just part of fluther
Troll sparring? What exactly is troll sparring?
Wait, what? You said “You don’t cross a southern gal..” @ARE_you_kidding_me. I just asked what happens if you cross a southern gal? How is that trolling?
More loli, when you cross a southern gal she does not sit back and take it. You get an earfull, if you’re lucky. They are not anymore subservient here like mentioned above.
Troll sparring is feeding the troll and watching what happens for comic relief. Sometimes it’s worthwhile but mostly not.
Women in general are not subservient any more, @ARE_you_kidding_me, if they ever really were. But I guess your southern women are super duper not subservient? Are they aggressive? Is that what you’re saying?
Pffft…not even worth discussing. Insulting doesn’t even begin to cover this guys archaic, fundamentalist, sexist, B.S. Pffft!
@Dutchess_III Oh, I know. I was just refuting what someone said above that they were more subservient here in the south. You don’t have to explain that to me lol.
I didn’t try to explain anything to you @ARE_you_kidding_me. I was trying to clarify exactly what you meant about Southern women being some how…something more than normal women. Are they aggressive?
No, not unless you cross them. Otherwise they are quite sweet.
@ARE_you_kidding_me Actually, southern women are notorious for expressing their anger in a passive aggressive manner a lot of the time. Sugar coated insults delivered with viper like accuracy. lol
So if you cross them they become aggressive. How far will they take that aggression if you don’t back down? Will they just stand there screaming in your face or will they actually do something other than scream?
Pastor Anderson’s views on women, as @jca mentioned, are antiquated for the US. (There are other countries/cultures where they are still the norm.) If he and his congregation want to follow the word of the King James Version of the Bible, so be it, but they lose credibility in my book. This version is not the true word.
For those of you who are discussing a female cultural difference of Southern folk, it’s stereotyping. I’ve lived in the South in several places over 40 years, as well as up north. Time has been spent in several countries, including those that are predominantly Catholic, Muslim, Jewish or non-believers. In each case, it is the same. Strip off the labels and drill down to the individual personalities and one finds people that run the spectrum of dominant vs. subservient. It also depends upon the situation. Surely each of you can relate to that.
@coloma yep, lol.
Dutch, that depends on the lady but it’s no different than anywhere else. Let me clarify, you don’t cross american ladies in general, they are not “submissive” here like JLeslie said.
Well, your “tone” made it sound like Southern women, more than other women, were nothing to be trifled with, like, “You’ll be sorry if you do.” That implies aggression and violence to me, which is, as @Pied_Pfeffer said, a stereotype. But you live there so…is it a fact and not a stereotype?
Ah. The southern women I know here don’t put up with shit at all and I know some serious hicks. You don’t cross a southern gal.” OK.
Put it in the context of someone saying they are submissive
What is a “serious hick”?
@ragingloli: I literally laughed out loud! “Hanging from a tree.”
A serious hick would be someone that rolls their own, carries a jug on their belt, spits a lot and has a big rifle in the back window of their truck. Oh, and is a die hard Bass fisherman. lol
I think he was referring to women, though @Coloma.
And Confederate flag on the pickup truck along with their hound dog lol.
I dare anybody to go to any American city and verbalize that the women are coddled and see if they survive long enough to make it back to their car lol.
They would be the girls who rode on the back of the bus, chewed tobacco and were preggers by 14 when I was growing up in the sticks around jr high age.
We best be careful here or we shall be accused of hickism. lol
Are they stupid and violent too?
Only after they have consumed their 100 pak of Coors Lite. haha
@Coloma I believe the term is hickaphobia ;)
I’m envisioning someone with a mullet.
A mullet and a bullet. And a 3rd grade ejacashun.
Don’t forget the cowboy hat
No, cowboys are cool. Hicks wear a dirty ball cap backwards.
Jeez, you guys are getting ugly.
Not all southerners are hicks. Not all southerners carry guns. Not all southerners are stupid.
The bunch of you are engaging in some really vicious and not-very-accurate stereotyping that is way beneath the level of civil discourse.
Shame, shame.
@ARE_you_kidding_me just said he knew some serious hicks. I wondered what a “serious hick” was.
I heard about Rosa Parks, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, Jimma Carter, and Martin Luther “Bubba” King Jr. gettin’ drunk on moonshine at the last meeting of their Jethro Bodine fan club.
They’re generally good people, they just have a different way of life. Alien to y’all coddled city folk.
There he goes again, claiming city folks are coddled! I don’t get that. Exactly what IS “coddled.”
I’m not city folk, by the way.
It was just a jab back at JLeslie early on. “Coddled” in the sense that they have never cleaned fish, changed the oil in a lawn tractor, shot at a coyote etc… some people took offense to that for whatever reason.
@elbanditoroso Humor humor…as always there is some truth to many stereotypes. I live in the country, mountains, as a bohemian liberal and trust me, I once had a wagon full of shitfaced on Coors lite, rifle brandishing ” hicks” wave their rifles at me when I wouldn’t allow them to chase a deer they were hunting onto my property. I was freaking scared to death.
If the hick fits, well, wear it.
@ARE_you_kidding_me “Submissive” in quotes. The Christian definition. Not just the South. My Catholic girlfriend in Michigan agreed to be married by her now husband’s cousin who is a minister (I think Baptist) and she specifically said don’t put obey in the ceremony and he agreed. When he got to the repeat after me he asked her to repeat ”...be submissive…” Asshole! There was an audible gasp in the room by a bunch of us. We thought WTH?! We knew she would not plan to say that and we didn’t know the back story at the time.
I said I myself (a northerner) have wound up kind of going along with my husband and losing a bit of “myself.” It’s not about taking a bunch of crap from your husband and being weak. The Christians, some Christians, define submissive differently than Webster, and so when they use the word submissive they are misunderstood. It’s their own fault. They don’t change their vocabulary for their audience. Just like how they define cult, and some other things.
@Are_you_kidding_me: I believe it was you who first stated that you took offense at the suggestion that rednecks are violent and aggressive.
I was not offended, just pointed out that what was said could be considered offensive. I kind of expect that from some though.
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