Do you think Hillary has a good chance at becoming President?

She probably will be President in January.

I voted for Bernie in the primary, but the math does not look good for him.

I doubt the voters would choose Cruz or Trump over Hillary.

If the Republicans finagle a non-freak-show choice, like Kasich or Paul Ryan, the Trumpshirts will trigger a meltdown and assure a Democratic victory.

I will vote for her or Bernie. I don’t really care between the two.

Luckily we vote by mail so the process is pretty painless. No lines or anything.

The Republican options are somehow getting worse and worse. Compared to these idiots I could have dealt with a President McCain or Romney.

Trump and Cruz. The Republicans need to do some soul searching.

Last night, I heard on the news that Kasich is teaming up with Cruz to try to block Trump. I thnk it will be between Trump and Hillary. I hope Democrats all get out and vote in November. Hillary has a very good chance of winning of Democrats get out and vote. If not, who knows. I like Bernie but I don’t think he’ll be the Democratic nominee.

It looks like it. I don’t think this country is so far gone to elect Trump. But if this election has taught us anything, it is that anything can happen. By some miracle that brings no real physical harm to Hillary, I’d like it to be Bernie. But you can’t always get what you want.

But you can try sometimes and you might find you get what you need.

I think it will be a real horse race. It will likely be Hilary vs Donald and the polls indicate Hilary ahead. I don’t think it will stay that way but who knows. I still can’t believe that anyone would vote to keep the Obama economy but ideology seems to over rule common sense in many cases. We will be $20 trillion in debt by that time and that is simply not sustainable. The days of winning an election by promising Free Stuff are quickly coming to an end. Let’s hope it ends by the wisdom of the voters rather than the reality of economics.

Yupper!

She has better than a good chance. She has the best chance. I mean the all but official line from even the GOP is now “anyone but Trump”.

Yes, I think she will.

Between the “Anybody but Trump” sentiment common among many right-leaners and pretty much anyone smarter than a fifth-grader and the generally fractured nature of the Conservative base, I’d say that whoever gets the Democratic nomination will most likely get the White House.

I’m still not ready to call the Democratic simply because there are some irregularities that call Hillary’s campaign and the actions of the DNC into question. As for the math saying Bernie cannot win, I’d say that that is only true if things continue going the way they are. But they are still close enough and there are enough things going on that I question whether something major will happen. Hillary is more likely to get the Democratic nomination (and therefore the White House), but the odds of things going totally sideways is high enough that I wouldn’t place more than a token amount on any wager.

@Jaxk If there were a better economy that worked, then people would go for it. Thing is, doing it the GOP way has been tried and proven to fail. You cannot rightfully complain about a bad thing when your idea is even worse. Maybe one of these days you will be able to understand the simple truth that others being wrong does not may you right. Until then, the fact that you feel a guy with multiple bankruptcies and failed businesses would do better with the economy than Obama has speaks volumes about your judgment.

Hillary will be sworn-in as president, but by default. My guy Bernie won’t get the party’s nomination, and I still cling to the belief that Americans aren’t suicidal enough to elect Trump or Cruz. Hillary isn’t likeable or popular, but she’s the best and sanest choice.

I do.

“I voted for Bernie in the primary, but the math does not look good for him.”

I know the comment wasn’t intended as such but it is comedy GOLD.

Obligatory serious comment:

Hillary is (for her supporters) the exactly right person at exactly the right time.

@jerv – I’m not sure if you’re just trying to start another fight but you’re idea of what works and what doesn’t has no basis in fact. The problem is that both Trump and Sanders are likely to change the economy significantly. Whether for good or ill is another question entirely. Clinton and Cruz are unlikely to have much impact on the economy or it’s current trajectory. Clinton because she likes the current trend and will continue it and Cruz because he’ll never get support for anything. He’s just too rigid.

So if you want change, it’s either Sanders or Trump. I think there is a massive move to get change in this country and even if you don’t like the guy advocating it, your options are limited.

Yes.

@SecondHandStoke I know the comment wasn’t intended as such but it is comedy GOLD.

I don’t get it. Why is my statement so funny to you?

^ Sorry to be crass but if I have to explain you will never understand.

If another Flutherite cares to spell it out, please, be my guest.

Sorry to be crass but if I have to explain you will never understand.

That’s what I thought. It was a gratuitous sneering comment and didn’t make any sense.

Thanks for confirming.

@Jaxk Cruz is a Theocrat and thus loses my vote automatically before we even get to economic policy. He is also a perfect illustration of why you and I cannot agree on politics; you seem to have no problem with religious fanatics so long as they are carrying a Bible while I advocate keeping all religion out of politics. And if Trump’s personal economy is any indication, he would affect our nation’s economy very badly. No question about it.

Yet those are the sorts of people the Republicans offer time and again and again and again and again; people who are either so devoutly Christian that they are basically “Taliban for Jesus”, or people who are not only financially reckless but dishonest as well. So long as you support those types of people and our nation has a firmly entrenched two-party system, you and I will always be diametrically opposed.

Admittedly, I kind of like the “Socialist” idea of giving taxpayers something for all we’ve paid in instead of just having my tax dollars paying Walmart’s operating expenses though. To my mind, it’s not “free stuff” if you already paid for it anyways.

@Call_Me_Jay

Very well, I will break my “never explain a joke” rule:

The Bernie campaign is based on what I will loosely call economics. Proper economics is partly based on good math. Therefore, Bernie being associated with math that doesn’t “look good” is apt enough to (trigger warning) trigger a chuckle.

Thank you for explaining @SecondHandStoke. It went over my head too.

@SecondHandStoke Whoosh – I didn’t see any humor there either.

@SecondHandStoke You are denying the existence of Northern European nations. I know for a fact the Nordic countries not only exist but also have economies. That oversight makes me chuckle, though more in a “laugh so I don’t cry” way.

@janbb Nor do I, but I never found ignorance humorous.