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Do you think Cruz should now support Trump?

Asked by JLeslie (65745points) May 4th, 2016 from iPhone

The media keeps asking that question. I think it’s stupid. He shouldn’t do it. He has said so much negative crap about Trump. I know it’s typical for the opponents to in the end support the nominee, but this time I just don’t see how it’s possible with some of these guys. Not Cruz, Fiorina, Jeb, how could anyone of them support Trump after what has been said?

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stanleybmanly's avatar

I don’t think it matters if Cruz kisses the ring or not.

Cruiser's avatar

I think most if not all will support Trump and bear in mind they are not personally supporting Trump they are supporting the GOP. Most you listed are team players and if they don’t support the nominee… come re-election time they will be locked out from GOP support. Why we so desperately need top to bottom campaign reform.

JLeslie's avatar

Maybe they should stop giving a shit about GOP support. Maybe Trump will finally knock lose some of the money hold on the candidates.

ibstubro's avatar

The Republicans don’t like Cruz, why should he support them?
He should huddle with the fundies and have a little prayer.

The Koch brothers don’t like Trump, and they fund enough Republican doin’s that everybody can probably get by with giving lip service to supporting Trump. “I don’t hate the guy anymore” kind of ringing endorsements.

zenvelo's avatar

There are months worth of pro Hillary ads to run just showing footage of all Cruz has said for the last eight months.

What difference does it make if Cruz endorses Trump? It won’t move a single vote. Cruz is a well documented liar.

Buttonstc's avatar

I don’t think it matters much one way or the other. I doubt he will.

And even if he manages some kind of half hearted attempt, it will just come across as fake as it, in reality, is.

So, why bother?

Rarebear's avatar

If he did he would be a total hypocrite

filmfann's avatar

Cruz has never been hesitant about doing something that pisses off other Republicans.
He should tell Dickless Donald to go stuff it.

Pandora's avatar

I think Cruz is praying Donald will win so he can do everything he can to block his every move. There really would be no reason to support him. No one would believe him.

jca's avatar

Cruz should go back to Canada~

JLeslie's avatar

I’m thinking they all will start saying, “it’s obviously the will of the people.” To get out of answering questions about Trump.

chyna's avatar

Not at all. He would come off as a hypocrite and begging for a job.

Cupcake's avatar

Didn’t all of the republican candidates except Trump pledge support to the republican nominee at the first debate?

JLeslie's avatar

^^i think so. Back when they never thought in a million years it would be Trump. It’s a stupid promise to make in my opinion. Stupid question to begin with. Why take up 5 minutes of debate time with that Q? How does that help me know what a candidate will do for me and America?

Cupcake's avatar

@JLeslie It demonstrates their unquestioned loyalty to the party.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Why? After Trump called him “Lying Ted” and accused his father of helping kill JFK, why would Cruz take any positive step to support Trump?

JLeslie's avatar

@Cupcake It’s just a bunch of yuck to me. Not that we don’t see it with the democrats too to some extent.

I hear so much discussion about the Republican party is falling apart. What will it be in the future? I just think to myself, the Republican Party has changed so much over the last 100 years, why does anyone think it won’t continue to change?

Edit: More than 100 years. Hell, Lincoln was a republican and preserved the union and freed the slaves.

ucme's avatar

As an emotional crutch perhaps

Cruiser's avatar

@elbanditoroso __” why would Cruz take any positive step to support Trump?“__

Because IMO Cruz has been handed a wake up call of epic magnitude that he is too extreme for majority support from conservatives and if he wants to remain relevant not only in the GOP but his home state he has to do a major overhaul of his policies and approach to his constituents. Admitting the errors of his ways and showing support for the GOP nominee will be a step in the right direction.

rojo's avatar

I think it would be the height of hypocrisy for him to do so. The most he should do is refrain from criticizing

JLeslie's avatar

@Cruiser I doubt he has that sort of epiphany. He can rationalize in all sorts of ways. He can think that Rubio, and some of the others in the beginning, took votes from him. He can think the media gave Trump all sorts of favored attention. That the ignorant like TV stars. That’s not me talking, I’m saying Cruz can have all those sorts of thoughts in his head.

ibstubro's avatar

I wouldn’t be surprised if Cruz didn’t leave public office, return to practicing law, and become a professional talking head. Preach to the faithful choir, in other words.

He had his chance at national office and he wasn’t wanted.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Believe me, this is by no means the last we will hear of Ted

ibstubro's avatar

I agree, @stanleybmanly. But now that he has the national stage, will he be happy as a congressional cog? I think the only way he can remain national is to take to the TV.

Buttonstc's avatar

Paul Ryan just said that he is not yet ready to endorse Trump.

So, if even the Speaker of the House, a leader in the Republican party, won’t endorse Trump, Ted figures he’s safe from criticism in that regard. Besides, Cruz endorsing Trump really would be pointless.

But, Ryan’s refusal speaks volumes.
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http://www.npr.org/2016/05/05/476933906/house-speaker-paul-ryan-says-hes-not-backing-trump-yet

JLeslie's avatar

Maybe Ted will run on a third party ticket.~

stanleybmanly's avatar

Ryan’s in a tough spot. He’s gotta sit there and take it as his party grows ever more defined by its low information base. Endorsing Trump is one of those Rubicon deals that amounts to “I declare the emperor to be fully clothed.” I bet Boehner is SO grateful to be nowhere near the helm as the Republican ship careens toward the rocks.

Cruiser's avatar

I am sorry @JLeslie but Ted does not have an original thought in his skull…just look at his train wreck campaign. He was a puppet on the Koch brothers strings and all his talking points were scripted by the far Right and for me very painful to listen to. Ted suffered his demise because he was unoriginal, unbelievable and insincere…as hard as the media and GOP tried to prop him up…voters saw though his charade. Good riddance.

Cruiser's avatar

@stanleybmanly what you underestimate is Trumps campaign is an amphibious vehicle and will steam roll over Hillary and the DNC. You know it….come on…admit it. ;)

JLeslie's avatar

@Cruiser Were the Koch brothers funding Ted??! I didn’t know that. The Kochs in real life are moderate to left on social issues. It always bothers me they find these religious right wingers. They bother me for more than that reason, but that really gets me. I would think the Koch brothers would be ok with Trump.

Jaxk's avatar

Any Republican vote that is not for Trump is a vote for Hillary. Everybody knows that but they’re having a little trouble dealing with it after this contentious primary. Ryan obviously wants something from Trump and that’s why he withheld his endorsement but he should have confronted Trump much earlier than now. The few that remain hold outs will not matter much but the Koch brothers and everyone else know they can’t afford a Hillary president. Trump may not have much in the way of coat tails but the House and Senate will fair much better with a Trump victory than with a loss. The media is pressing the issue because it makes news not because it makes a difference.

rojo's avatar

@Jaxk I wish I could share your optimism (?). But I think Clinton will be every bit as much of an asset for the Koch broz and their ilk as any other Republican.

Jaxk's avatar

@rojo – And I wish I could share your optimism. I have heard nothing from Hillary that would indicate an improvement to the economy and with the elimination of the coal and fracking, we’re likely to see another recession. I doubt anyone would consider that an asset.

ibstubro's avatar

While the Mexicans build The Wall, can’t the Saudi’s retrain the coal miners? ~

rojo's avatar

@Jaxk ok, so the economy is ok; not great but ok, so we are alright on that front. As to her objection to fracking and coal, yeah, well, we are better off for the less of both we actually have and helping humanity will not bring on another recession and Clinton is all for banks, banking and things that make it more profitable.

Jaxk's avatar

@rojo – If you think the economy is doing OK, I guess that’s just an example of lowered expectations. Once we lose the coal and the fracking, the Saudi’s will raise the price of oil again and we’ll have higher electric bills and higher transportation costs. Both of which impact the cost of everything. @ibstubro suggests we could retrain the coal miners but to do what, work at McDonald’s? Your estimate of the ec0onomy brings to mind the old story about a guy that jumped of the Empire State building. Halfway down he was heard to say, “so far not bad”.

chyna's avatar

I’m from a state with a high unemployment rate because of our coal miners being out of work. If you have ever drove through all these little coal towns you would know there are no other jobs for the miners. These towns are stuck on the side of hills, usually with only a small grocery store to shop at. There are no fast food restaurants, shopping malls or other jobs. Because they are in the hills, no other manufacturers will come to this area. They are at least 2 hours from a larger town.
They can’t move because they have no money and no training in any other jobs. If you look at miners pictures from the 50’s not much has changed.

stanleybmanly's avatar

@chyna those pictures of the unchanging brutal economics for mine workers are telling. The thing that is so easily neglected in looking at those pictures is that considering the billions in revenue extracted from those mines through the years, why is poverty and destitution so endemic? Where does the money go? Who benefits from a feudal system enforced on entire states like Kentucky and West Viriginia? You have to ask yourself “Is it deliberate”? Who might prefer an undereducated desperate workforce with coal mining as its only option for employment?

JLeslie's avatar

@chyna Maybe the government should help pay for them to relocate. I wonder if it would be cheaper in the end for the tax payer?

ibstubro's avatar

Are you implying, @Jaxk, that the coal miners are too stupid to do anything but break dirt?

ibstubro's avatar

In all seriousness, @chyna, if the picture is as bleak as that, why is there so much talk about the coal miners “losing their way of life”?
It seems like they should be glad to break the cycle if it gives their kids a chance at a better life than they had?

Jaxk's avatar

@ibstubro _ actually what I’m saying is that guy in the white house is too stupid to create decent jobs. Obama and the democrats have been creating low wage, low skill service jobs for 8 years and have been bragging about it. The average coal miner makes over $80,000 annually If they are retrained to take one of the Obama jobs created, it would be at McDonalds making minimum wage. There is no way to look at that as an improvement.

Coal mines are typically located in remote, mountainous areas. There not a lot of industry in those areas. Clinton has already said she’ll eliminate those jobs. So what do you want to train them to do?

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