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NSFW Will incidents like this ever stop?

Asked by imrainmaker (8380points) May 28th, 2016

Reportedly a teenage girl was brutally raped by 30+ men ( count not age) in Rio where Olympic is going to be held this summer.Will incidents like this ever stop in this so called civilised world?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

Nope, some people are just plain evil and brutal, and could care less on who’s life they ruin.
Now beyond that, people will always take advantage of the poor, vulnerable ,and less fortunate, be they Rapers , murderers ,terrorists, right down to employers that don’t pay a wage a person can live on.

ragingloli's avatar

Humans are inherently evil and savage, held back only by the flimsy chains of “civilisation”.
These chains will break for many, unleashing a human’s true nature. It is inevitable.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

You know @ragingloli for a great deal I do agree with you about the savage part, weather it’s a rape or making people work for slave wages, a great deal of people are truly evil and savage as you say.

Love_my_doggie's avatar

The human species is a contradiction. People have the capacity to be amazingly kind and compassionate but also vicious and savage. It’s yet another trick of evolution; we had to learn how to care about each other, to survive in social groups, while simultaneously being brutal to exist in a harsh world.

cazzie's avatar

Rio isn’t civilised. What gave you that impression?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

“Will incidents like this ever stop?”

Only when we realize that all people are inherently good, and worth our consideration beyond snap judgement from afar.

Only hurting people will hurt people. Help them find peace and they wouldn’t.

Only morally depraved people will treat others with moral depravity. Teach them morality.

Between now and that day of awakening, enforce the law to its fullest extent. But I can’t help but think that if one tenth of the crime fighting and war budgets were spent on the mental health of the most depraved, then this sort of tragedy wouldn’t be so common.

Zaku's avatar

I’m with @RealEyesRealizeRealLies. It will stop eventually, but it takes something like the above, not just conventional ideas of civilization.

Coloma's avatar

Well, here is no cure for the bad seeds of sociopathology. The really scary part is when equally sick individuals manage to wrangle up more sick individuals to partake in the pack mentality. There is no new news under the sun. Brutality is as old as the species.

ucme's avatar

Fuck me, some of you have a bloody miserable view of life.
As horrible as that attack was & is almost certain to be repeated somewhere by sick twisted fucks, most people are far from savages & never commit an evil act as long as they live.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

”...no cure for the bad seeds of sociopathology…”

Perhaps. It’s debatable. But regardless of a cure, there very well could be preventative measures. I don’t personally believe that sociopaths are born. I believe they are created. If so, then the latest neuroscience suggest the brain has extreme plasticity for being uncreated, and then recreated.

Coloma's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies True sociopathic types are born bad seeds. They lack proper brain development. www.cerebromente.org.br/n07/doencas/ The author is a neuroscientist.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Do you think all 30+ of those rapists were born true sociopaths?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Also, just because sociopath brains can be distinguished from so called normal brains, that doesn’t determine if any one sociopath will become violent.

Thanks for the link BTW. I’ve read countless papers on sociopaths, narcissists, borderlines, etc… But I haven’t read the article you linked. Much obliged.

Coloma's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies No, I doubt all 30 men are sociopaths, plus factoring in the macho culture of south american males, still, pretty violent tendencies and easily led.
Yep, me too, I have a long history of learning about sociopaths, narcissists and BPD as well, having known a few and married one ( a raging N. ) too, most likely. haha
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing but also very enlightening.

Robert Hare has some good works, he is all about studying the character disordered.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

What @ucme said.

I don’t think that evil, or even necessarily sociopathy, are behind attacks like this. I’m sure it’s plausible that some of the people involved would fit the bill, but I don’t think that’s the case in the majority of situations in which people do horrible things in large groups.

We are social animals and it is in our nature to behave in a group. When this is done in the name of good, which is the majority of the time, we are a progressive, productive, remarkable species. We have an incredible drive to be accepted by our peers and sometimes that takes a turn for the ugliest side of humanity, especially as we know that mentalities and behaviors have a potential to move into extreme territory when in social groups. This is how riots start. We wouldn’t call gorillas or chimpanzees who engage in this sort of behavior “evil,” we would consider their intelligence less evolved. I believe the same is true in cases like this. We have a much better chance of changing this type of behavior if we recognize where it comes from and why people behave this way. I would venture a guess that the majority of the people who are involved in situations like this end up with PTSD or other long term psychological effects, because they probably regret it as it wouldn’t be in their nature to act in such a way independently. This doesn’t excuse or justify the behavior, but it’s a much better explanation than chalking it up to “evil,” which feels like a cop out to me.

Will they ever stop entirely? I doubt it.

Zaku's avatar

Seems to me most people who do horrible things, sociopaths and non sociopaths, were messed with themselves before, and didn’t get healed properly. Or, they were in horrible circumstances that drove them to do something desperate.

So the potential is to develop society’s understanding of this, and our capacity for detecting and treating it, to the point that we heal the screwed up people and raise people to not be dangerous like that, and then we treat each other well so no one is desperate and violently resentful.

If there are some incurable maniacs, we identify them and prevent them from being able to victimize others.

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