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[NSFW] Women, how many times a day is too much?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) August 1st, 2016

A recent thread got me thinking, for those women who have a spouse with a high libido what is too much intimate contact? Is it distinguished by if clothes come off, if it leads to penetration, if it is just groping and caressing do you count that? What if you were just face sucked and fondled 12–23 times a day and it may or may not lead to penetrative sex, too much, OK, or leaves you wondering is there more, etc.?

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Coloma's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central For fucks sake dude, really?
Go take a cold shower.

ragingloli's avatar

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With you, zero.

kritiper's avatar

Since sex is a penetration thing with men, I’d guess that too much in a day would be when you have to empty out your shoes.

stanleybmanly's avatar

You have entirely too much time on your hands. It stupefies me that you would expect women in a public forum to discuss issues they would resist delving into in the isolated presence of a certified therapist. Are you really this insensitive?

CWOTUS's avatar

Once a King, always a King.
Once a Knight… is enough.

ZEPHYRA's avatar

I want to know what LOLI’s drawing depicts.

elbanditoroso's avatar

Methinks that @Hypocrisy_Central needs a subscription to Penthouse Letters.

ZEPHYRA's avatar

Oh, I see it is a face laughing like mwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Coloma's avatar

Methinks the almighty is not pleased with his lustful child. lol

Mariah's avatar

How many times a day? I can’t even fathom being with someone who tries to initiate once per day.

Coloma's avatar

Well I know that “face sucking” and “groping” is the way to really get me turned on. lol

stanleybmanly's avatar

Okay, I was wrong (again)

imrainmaker's avatar

I think they’re playing games with him..) there should be separate category for such questions..NASW.. Not at all safe for work questions.

Coloma's avatar

Who wants to bet that @Hypocrisy_Central has at least one, if not a closet full of trench coats?

SecondHandStoke's avatar

“Sex is a penetration thing with men.”

“Penthouse Letters.”

”...Discuss issues they would resist delving into in the isolated presence of a certified therapist.”

”...Tries to initiate…”

(Sigh). Based on so many political questions and comments on Fluther it’s obvious it’s members fancy themselves so called progressives.

But when if comes to sexuality and intimacy the opposite seems to be true.

Lighten up, dispense with outdated preconceived notions and please, stop thinking of sex as some sort of battle between genders (and variations thereupon).

Modern humanity should consider sex (like many natural functions) to be an adventure, no longer merely a means of survival.

Make no assumptions about a gender or individual regarding sexual, tastes, habits and intentions.

You’re only selling yourself short or limiting the potential for variation, experimentation and self education in your life.

It’s 2016.

Get current, Jeez.

@ragingloli GA.

Mariah's avatar

^ I have no idea how you concluded that I have conservative views about sex based on the three words “tries to initiate.”

SecondHandStoke's avatar

^ You make a good point, especially considering that I was posting about the complications involved in making assumptions.

It just sounded a little tragic to me.

Apologies.

Mariah's avatar

No worries!

Some background on my first answer, I was once with a dude who had a way higher sex drive than me and would basically just start feeling me up any time he wanted to have sex, hoping that it would turn me on. If I told him I wasn’t in the mood he would start trying to convince me that I should basically ignore my own desires (or lack thereof) and have sex with him anyway, just for his benefit, to which I often caved, and that was obviously not fun for me.

That relationship did feel like a “battle between genders” in the sense that I knew most nights his goal was to convince me to have sex with him, and most nights my goal therefore ended up being to successfully fend him off. It was a huge factor in my breaking up with him.

I make no assumptions that it’s going to be like this with every guy; in fact, I know it is not, as I’m with a man now whose sex drive matches mine much more closely and our 1–2 times per week feels totally fine and healthy. And on the rare occasion that one of us is not in the mood when the other is, we’re both good at accepting that sex doesn’t have to happen that night and that isn’t the end of the world.

stanleybmanly's avatar

And that’s the only sensible answer to this hopeless question on mismatched libidos. For some folks, once in a lifetime may be too many, and from the mischief that can come with sexual obsessions, I’m no longer convinced that those so afflicted aren’t the lucky ones. I’m convinced from my own life that it is the one alley that I stumbled down happily, oblivious to pitfalls and consequences. No one should be entitled to such luck unless there is a God who does truly look out for fools.

Coloma's avatar

@SecondHandStoke That may all be well and good but, when someone is clearly, OBSESSED with things of a sexual nature, that is compulsive behavior not a natural variant of libido. Sexual obsession to the point of needing sex multiple times a day and a ceaseless pursuit of sexual activity is compulsive behavior based on anything but a healthy libido.

jonsblond's avatar

Wow. Seriously people? Just look at all the NSFW threads on this site and all the women who had no problem answering and they never attacked the person asking, but if HC does look out!

Remember NSFW Fridays asked by ETPro? Everyone loved those.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh, this is so funny! You know, if I could spend a bare minimum of effort, say 3 minutes to have a climax, I imagine I’d want to do that 2, 3 times a day. But it doesn’t happen that way, of course.

And too often it’s the selfishness of men when it comes to initiating sex that turns me off. I ask for a back rub because my back hurts and within 60 seconds his hands are straying to the front, down to my legs, things that have nothing what so ever to help relieve my tension or what ever. They think they’re turning me on (because THEY are turned on) and I’m not. I’m frustrated and angry.

Lay down on the bed to take a much needed nap in the middle of the day…the guy is gonna see that, come right in, lie down and starting to grope. Same thing.

They see so many “invitations” where there are none.

And @stanleybmanly ” It stupefies me that you would expect women in a public forum to discuss issues they would resist delving into in the isolated presence of a certified therapist.” Bolding mine. That’s a man’s view of how women are supposed to view sex…as something dirty, secretive and shameful. I’m pretty sure we women have all opened up pretty well, short of turning it into some sort of titillating porn, which some may be interested in, but I’m not. I wouldn’t want my husband to engage in such a conversation, so I wouldn’t do that to him.

And we’ve opened up only to be told, “That’s not how women feel. They want sex just as much as men. They’re turned on by the same things that men are. They are just as “desperate” for sex as men. And you’re a liar if you say they aren’t.”

Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh, and penetration has almost nothing to do with a climax, for me, anyway. That’s another thing many men can’t seem to understand. Penetration is the least of the turn ons for most women.

stanleybmanly's avatar

I stand corrected (at least as far as you are concerned).

SecondHandStoke's avatar

@Dutchess_III

This man is capable of understanding anything.

Everybody wants it differently.

How difficult is it to just ask?

There’s a four letter word that ends in “k” that means intercourse.

It’s talk.

janbb's avatar

@Hypo – Seriously, dude, why don’t you go out and get some yourself and then come back and tell us all about it in all your gory Christian details?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@ragingloli With you, zero.
You can look in the mirror and say that. ;-P

@stanleybmanly It stupefies me that you would expect women in a public forum to discuss issues they would resist delving into in the isolated presence of a certified therapist. Are you really this insensitive?
Oh, the indignation to ask, when people here answer and ask many things they would never ask around the dinner table or to a shrink (and some ought to), or simply ask the person they want answers about instead of random strangers. We have not even touched the medical questions where people expect everyone here to have a MD degree. Where is it insensitive?

@Coloma Who wants to bet that @Hypocrisy_Central has at least one, if not a closet full of trench coats?
I will take that bet, I will bet my actual dollars to your donuts, I just want my donuts fresh when you deliver them.

[… that is compulsive behavior not a natural variant of libido.
A natural libido is what, once a week, three times a week, once every two weeks, once a day?

@SecondHandStoke But when if comes to sexuality and intimacy the opposite seems to be true.
Prudishness only raises its ugly head of certain people bring it up ~~

@Dutchess_III And we’ve opened up only to be told, “That’s not how women feel. They want sex just as much as men. They’re turned on by the same things that men are. They are just as “desperate” for sex as men. And you’re a liar if you say they aren’t.”
So…..which it is? Women do not like and are not as sexual as men, and suppose to resist it and not enjoy it as much, or they are as sexual as men and enjoy sex as much as men?

@jonsblond Wow. Seriously people? Just look at all the NSFW threads on this site and all the women who had no problem answering and they never attacked the person asking, but if HC does look out!
When certain people ask it somewhat brings out the two-facedness in some, huh? ~~

Remember NSFW Fridays asked by ETPro? Everyone loved those.
Maybe that was back in the 60s when there was a sexual revolution, but that ship has sailed and they have become Amish now. ~~

@janbb @Hypo – Seriously, dude, why don’t you go out and get some yourself and then come back and tell us all about it in all your gory Christian details?
Sex is the same no matter who does it, only thing that matters is if it has a ring on it, and thus honored and in right standing……but you do not want to hear that though!

@Mariah
Before I forget, thank you very much for staying on point and answering the question.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Why do you insist on comparing women’s sexuality to men? To yourself and to ancient stereotypes? Have you no ability to consider your wife’s preferences, for example since she’s a woman? Have you even bothered to ask her, or talk to her, to openly ask her about her feelings, or do you have her cowed into your Christian ideal of sexual submission, into pretending to enjoy it, even if she doesn’t sometimes, to avoid your ego-driven wrath?
Hells bells. Talk to your wife!

Coloma's avatar

@Dutchess_III I don’t think there is a wife.

@Hypocrisy_Central There is no allotted number of sexual interactions in relationship, and sex ebbs and flows, however…if someone is insisting on daily sex or daily multiple sexual encounters, day after day, week after week, month after month for self gratifying and compulsive reasons that becomes hypersexual and compulsive behavior associated with OCD issues and other, less than healthy motives. According to the sexperts 2–3 times a week is pretty average for happy couples. Sex is about mutual consent not finding ways to manipulate your partner into getting more for yourself.

Dutchess_III's avatar

No wife? So he’s never getting any? Wow. Well, that kind of explains things. I could have sworn he was married.

jonsblond's avatar

There was a fiancee a few years ago.

Why you all talkin’ like HC isn’t here?

stanleybmanly's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I’m not indignant about the question. I was flabbergasted. There is undoubtedly someone here willing to answer any question, but singling out women to disclose their sexual proclivities sets off bells in my head. Believe me, I’m nobody’s prude, but there is no way to disregard the blatantly prurient nature of the question. Since it is obvious that the answers MUST vary with the individual, you are asking the women here for specifics on their own sexual habits. So what’s wrong with that? I’m not sure, but I can tell you that if this is business as usual as some of these answers imply, I have some adjusting to do.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

@HC, why do you assume it’s usually the woman who has the lower libido? Women can have the higher libido in a partnership. Perhaps a question about how people manage having a different libido to their partner would be useful.

Whichever side of the fence you’re on, if there is a significant disparity between your libido and your partners, frustration is likely to ensue.

stanleybmanly's avatar

Yes. It’s the direction of the question toward the women that gave me the jitters. Because technically it’s we men that can’t hide our limits when it comes to performance and endurance issues. Moreover, according to the women I’ve known, the numbers of men loose with insecurities over these things is staggering.

stanleybmanly's avatar

@jonsblond Did you notice THAT question got 39 GQs??? what was this place before my arrival, the land of midgets & whips?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Dutchess_III Why do you insist on comparing women’s sexuality to men?
@Earthbound_Misfit @HC, why do you assume it’s usually the woman who has the lower libido?
I am not, but I have heard both sides of that coin. I have heard women are just as frisky as men so any woman enjoying an active sex life is no different than men, she is not wanton or some whore, and I heard women are more chaste, I merely asked which do you believe is more correct based of the statement you made?

No wife? So he’s never getting any? Wow. Well, that kind of explains things.
Ahhh…..I see, unless I am at present boinking like bunnies there must be something wrong. I have had enough back when I thought fornicating was fulfilling. Now it has to have a ring on it, I am in for the purchase not merely renting a relationship until it breaks.

@Coloma [..if someone is insisting on daily sex or daily multiple sexual encounters, day after day, week after week, month after month for self gratifying and compulsive reasons that becomes hypersexual and compulsive behavior associated with OCD issues and other, less than healthy motives.
People who desire and/or have sex daily just with different people each time have OCD?

@stanleybmanly Since it is obvious that the answers MUST vary with the individual, you are asking the women here for specifics on their own sexual habits.
I believe if I were asking how many times a day is too many having your breast grabbed or your nipples tweaked, or getting fingered are specifics, neither of which were part of the question.

@cazzie Remember his questions about mail order brides?
Because questions like allowing people to have sex with my dead body was taken and my mind was not empty enough to think of if a trainer can sex up a Pokémon, so I had that bit of fluff. And people sure took it seriously did they? LOL

ZEPHYRA's avatar

I guess this is DISCUSSION CLOSED POINT.

janbb's avatar

Sex is the same no matter who does it, only thing that matters is if it has a ring on it, and thus honored and in right standing……but you do not want to hear that though!

If so, why ask so many questions about it? Luckily, I’ve found it very different with different partners. And if you feel you now want to only do it within marriage, that is certainly your prerogative. There just seems to be a disconnect between your veneration of sex within marriage and your prurient curiosity about it here.

And that is said with all due respect.

Coloma's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central People that have sex daily with different people are exhibiting sexually addictive and compulsive behaviors, which can be part of the myriad ways OCD shows up, yes.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I assume from your comments you would never have sex with a woman unless you were married to that woman. It came as a surprise to me that you’re not married, so I wonder what you do with all the pent up sexual frustration. Perhaps asking questions like this is the answer.

In light of this, if you really, really want to know what makes women tick, stop putting your own parameters of morality around it, stop insulting women who like having sex, and just ask, respectfully, and listen, without judgement.

Also, @Coloma wasn’t referring to multiple sexual partners. She was referring to a relationship, such as a marriage (probably referring to her ex) where the man is particularly, and annoyingly persistent with no concern for his partner. I have experienced this to some degree in my own relationships. I’m reminded of a Facebook Meme that said, “My husband thinks that poking me and poking me on the back, over and over, with his hard on, after we’ve gone to bed and I’m trying to sleep, is gonna turn me on.

And you keep coming back to the “multiple partners” theme, over and over, as evidenced by your comment to @Coloma, who wasn’t referring to multiple partners “People who desire and/or have sex daily just with different people each time have OCD?” Why are you hung up on the “multiple partners” thing? I doubt anyone here has multiple partners. But if they did, who cares?

cazzie's avatar

I state the obvious again, but HC asks these questions for one reason and one reason only: To practice his preaching skills. yawn

Coloma's avatar

The occasional sex question is one thing but repeated questions of a voyeuristic nature are suspect IMO. When there is a re-occuring theme it suggests some obsession IMO.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It’s odd that sex seems to be his favorite subject to preach on.

I remember going to a pastor for marriage counseling once, when I was married to my ex. I think we found him in the yellow pages for marriage counseling. My husband got up to leave the room to get coffee and the preacher pounced (figuratively) instantly. He started asking for all kinds of deeply personal details of our sex lives, how often did we have sex, did I have orgasms, what did they feel like, what did it take for me to have an orgasm….
I answered the first question honestly, “4 or 5 times a week,” the second with a guarded “Yes, sometimes,” the third with, “About like your own, I suppose, if you ever have them,” and the last with, “You know, I don’t think this is any of your business.”
He started to try and convince me what it had to do with our marriage, and that it was important, but then my husband came back and for some reason that important part of our marriage got dropped like a hot potato.

imrainmaker's avatar

Haha..I guess that pastor is named as @Hypo here..)

Dutchess_III's avatar

Maybe his dad. This was in the mid 80’s.

jca's avatar

@Dutchess_III: It would have been funny if when your hubby walked back into the room, you said “Honey, Pastor so and so is asking what it takes to make me orgasml.” Let the pastor be embarrassed as shit!

Dutchess_III's avatar

Yeah, well, an uncontrolled situation there. I didn’t say anything until after we got home. When I told him about it he said, “What did you say to make him ask you that??!!” In other words….“You asked for it (somehow.)” See, he had to blame me so he could get off the hook of maybe having to stand up for me, because he knew he was to much of a wuss to go talk to the man.
In certain situations, at his convenience, he’d treat me like I was an utter stranger to him, like he didn’t know me well enough to know what kind of things I would, and would not, do. Ever. My ex, as I mentioned.
(My current husband would have gone right back and beat the shit out of him! So…I probably wouldn’t have told him either!)

LornaLove's avatar

Personally I find this question infantile, sucking face clothes on or off? What are you asking, is this a 1st base, 2nd base type of thing? Or, are you asking how a partner with a lower sex drive deals with a partner with a higher sex drive? That would be an interesting question.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@janbb If so, why ask so many questions about it?
Would you ask a person who trains his/her telescope out to the skies and search for whatever that they will never see in person why bother to do it, even to the point of watching for years? I know how I believe on it, but how would I know if any assumptions were true without training my telescope on it.

@Dutchess_III It came as a surprise to me that you’re not married, so I wonder what you do with all the pent up sexual frustration.
What makes you think there is pent up frustration, assumption?

It’s odd that sex seems to be his favorite subject to preach on.
It isn’t, it is a favorite subject and pursuit of the US (maybe even other places). What I would rather be speaking on no one here wants to speak on if not to argue or filibuster.

@cazzie I state the obvious again, but HC asks these questions for one reason and one reason only: To practice his preaching skills.
There is no talk of God here, but if there is any need of a sermon, I am sure you will provide a reason or inject religion into it.

@Coloma The occasional sex question is one thing but repeated questions of a voyeuristic nature are suspect IMO.
If there were only one way to do sex, then I guess there would be no need to explore any other areas as they would not exist. However, in a nation with a PMS (Power, Money, and Sex) problem, sex is one of the things people know much about and certainly think about more than eating. Again, I know what I think of it, but I do not want to speculate what people in general think of it without ample input or evidence.

@LornaLove Or, are you asking how a partner with a lower sex drive deals with a partner with a higher sex drive?
If it were not crystal clear, that would be the gist of the question, as I have known women who needed it (so they think) twice a day to those who needed it once a week. When I worked in the nail salon I overheard a woman complaining because her husband wanted to be ”hands on” with her up to 20 times a day, she felt he was groping her too much, etc. Other times women would complain they could never get their guy’s motor running even nibbling his ear, stroking his neck, or even attempting to undress him.

Coloma's avatar

Can you spell c-i-r-c-l-e j-e-r-k? lol

SecondHandStoke's avatar

^ Gruesome isn’t it?

Dutchess_III's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central are you telling us that you have sex with women you aren’t married to? Or that you take matters into your own hands? Or release your sexual energy in other ways that have nothing to do with a woman (since sex with anyone other than your wife is a sin.)?

SecondHandStoke's avatar

”...He fumbles at your head like a freshman pulling at a panty girdle…”

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^^ @Hypocrisy_Central are you telling us that you have sex with women you aren’t *married to?*

Had, that is the operative word, I fornicated with plenty of women before I got enlightened. The rest of that, take your own advice and see it as voyeuristic questions of TMI and imagine as you will.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh. OK. I just wanted to make sure that these questions you’re asking of sexually mature people will have answers that you can relate to, and understand. So, how many times a day is too much for you?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ So, how many times a day is too much for you?
Ummm….was with a woman once who wanted it 1st thing before breakfast, at least twice before dinner, maybe once afterward, and right before bed. Most of the time, if time permitted, I could keep up. At one point it got so much it was like, another class of water, really nothing special, not that I need to add, but she did not mind me being hands on and in fact appreciated it, sometimes I had to go out of my way to knead her like bread dough.

Dutchess_III's avatar

How long were you with her? I mean, did you have to deal with years of her pestering you for sex 4 times a day? Or was it just for a couple of days?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ How long were you with her? I mean, did you have to deal with years of her pestering you for sex 4 times a day?
It was a while, I did not see it as pestering, I seen it as more of a blessing, if one can be blessed engaging their hedonism, because the other end of the spectrum would have been worse. At least this way I knew whenever I was ready she beat me there so there was no chance of hearing ”I have a headache”, or ”Now, really? I am too tired”.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, I can see that in a short term relationship @Hypocrisy_Central, or at the beginning of a new relationship. But a mature relationship spanning years, when eventually sex is no longer the most important thing, can certainly change things.

cazzie's avatar

Now, @Dutchess_III who are we to say? What I was left thinking about after this discussion was what did @Hypocrisy_Central think of this women who so willingly and eagerly met his sexual needs, albeit outside of holy matrimony.

cazzie's avatar

And, when @Hypocrisy_Central does, finally meet the holy, pure, righteous woman of his dreams, gets her to marry him, what will be the parameters? In the bible, a woman has no right to refuse her husband the right to sex, so, if she is ill or doesn’t feel that way inclined, that can’t surely be rape, can it? Four times a day should, certainly be normal. There can’t be rape in marriage because that simply isn’t what God wrote or intended.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Oh, good questions, @cazzie.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Dutchess_III But a mature relationship spanning years, when eventually sex is no longer the most important thing, can certainly change things.
That is why I do not have to hit the sheets with her on date three or son after to show if she loves me or me her, etc. some people I know still do, others it would be the first date because the sex is just another thing to do like go to the show, take a carriage ride around the park etc. These days I am in to substance over flash.

What I was left thinking about after this discussion was what did@Hypocrisy_Central think of this women who so willingly and eagerly met his sexual needs, albeit outside of holy matrimony.
At that time I thought I was a very lucky man, to be honest. It was not like she was having sex with random guys four and five times a day, she had one guy, me. Because of her high libido it had no ill effects on how I saw her.

@cazzie And, when @Hypocrisy_Central does, finally meet the holy, pure, righteous woman of his dreams, gets her to marry him, what will be the parameters? In the bible, a woman has no right to refuse her husband the right to sex, so, if she is ill or doesn’t feel that way inclined, that can’t surely be rape, can it?
Let me again clear up some of your Biblical misunderstandings. In a marriage the wife and the husband are to make every effort to service the other sexually, we see what happens when it doesn’t? Someone ends up cheating. Now at the same time you cannot cleave that off of a man treating his wife as his own flesh, if he was ill he would want rest, care and recuperation, so if she is ill, it is his job to humble himself, put off his desires and minister to his wife until she is better, likewise, she is to do the same for him. That is the major problem with the modern marriage and those saints who use that formula, marriage is supposed to make you and the spouse ”one flesh” like a column made of an alloy, not a ladder that is held together by rungs where if enough is lost, the ladder falls apart.

There can’t be rape in marriage because that simply isn’t what God wrote or intended.
Well, you got something right, but not the way you intended to present it. If a man loves his wife to the point he will lay down his life for her as Christ did the church, then he would do her no harm or rape her if he would not rape himself, or want to be raped by another; do unto others as you would have them do unto you; even though that is sorely misapplied in the church and out of it.

Now that you now have it straight, let’s see if you file it away

Dutchess_III's avatar

Ok, so the Bible is rife with passages about women submitting to their husbands. Find me one that suggests A) it’s ok for a woman to be horny, and B) the husband must meet that need.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ Find me one that suggests A) it’s ok for a woman to be horny, and B) the husband must meet that need.
It amazes me that you constantly ask for stuff you do not believe or refuse to accept, however:

1 Corinthians 7:4,5
4 The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5 do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

1 Corinthians 7
[ Principles of Marriage ] Now concerning the things of which you wrote to me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman. Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband. Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. ...

The man HAS to render to his wife her needs as much as his own. If those do not suffice, then nothing will. I do not know any specific verses that says it is OK to be horny or even speaks of it less in the context of scripture as I just presented. We are fleshly beings given desires to be with the opposite sex in a carnal manner, if we did not there would be no human race. You see it, you read it, now will you go back to rejecting it, or you have some other rebuttal you will try? ;)

Dutchess_III's avatar

All that says is you guys have to have sex with each other and no one else. And by “meeting the need” I didn’t mean simply providing a poke hole, which is usually enough for a man, but not a woman. That’s probably why they don’t go into detail about what all is entailed.

Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control._”

That’s why women in the places where the Old Testement was written have to cover themselves from head to foot so they won’t “tempt” the men. So…. why don’t the men have to cover up so they don’t tempt the women? Or are women more self controlled? Are women not as likely to allow Satan to influence them?

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@Dutchess_III All that says is you guys have to have sex with each other and no one else. And by “meeting the need” I didn’t mean simply providing a poke hole, which is usually enough for a man, but not a woman. That’s probably why they don’t go into detail about what all is entailed.
There we go, you ask for something you expected not to find an answer for, when there IS an answer, you reject it and put a spin on it as to make the answer a lie or make it fit what you believed from the start. I could go into that much more, but it is not germane to this thread, however it was to the thread I said guys would have nothing to do with women if it were not for the fact of what they have between their legs. Some, I have to check to see if you were on that bandwagon, were trying to say men have more value in women than that, yet here some seem to be backpedaling on what they said because I seem to be coming from that very direction.

That’s why women in the places where the Old Testement was written have to cover themselves from head to foot so they won’t “tempt” the men.
They were all dressed fairly covered the same way. They did not have booty shorts, minis, and such in those days. It is another in-this-day misconception. But given the thread where some women said they were afraid of being around men or alone in an elevator with men given the long history of men raping women I would say that is some evidence that women had more self-control even if by the fact they could not force their desires on men; more evidence men rape women more than women rape men.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I asked if it was OK for a women to become horny. You didn’t answer that.

I asked if there were any parameters on how to treat a woman so she could be satisfied (ie climax) because it can be much more complicated than for a man. You didn’t answer that.

This is not just about providing a warm body. Do you understand that?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ I asked if it was OK for a women to become horny. You didn’t answer that.
What do you seek, and actual line of scripture that say “thou shall be horny once a day”? Or something to that effect?
Genesis 30:16,17
16 When Jacob came out of the field in the evening, Leah went out to meet him and said, “You must come in to me, for I have surely hired you with my son’s mandrakes.” And he lay with her that night.
17 And God listened to Leah, and she conceived and bore Jacob a fifth son.
There is a nugget as close as I can get if you cannot follow the context of the last passages of scripture.
There is no specific passage I know of that tells man nor woman they can be horny but it is a given that you will be for your spouse; we were made that way.

I asked if there were any parameters on how to treat a woman so she could be satisfied (ie climax) because it can be much more complicated than for a man. You didn’t answer that.
The closest one can get to that is for him to treat her as he would himself, if he want to catch a nut he should do all he can to help her get there. Now we know no two women are the same so trying to say there is a cookie cutter way to the Big “O” would be like trying to catch a dust devil in a bottle.

This is not just about providing a warm body. Do you understand that?
I understand that perfectly, it is society that seems to miss it that is why they don’t want to do the long game and get a ring on it because a warm body for a night or a spell is good enough.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Yes, I am asking for an actual line of scripture, for women, that reads like this one for men: “Proverbs 5:19 As a loving hind and a graceful doe, Let her breasts satisfy you at all times; Be exhilarated always with her love.”

Song of Solomon 7:7–8 “Your stature is like a palm tree, And your breasts are like its clusters. “I said, ‘I will climb the palm tree, I will take hold of its fruit stalks.’ Oh, may your breasts be like clusters of the vine, And the fragrance of your breath like apples.

Where, oh where, can we women find Biblical soft porn verses that talk of the beauty of a man’s penis?

I lived with my husband for 4 years before we agreed to get married. I didn’t have a “ring” before that. We had lots of sex, before then. Regular old sex, some great, some so-so. Then we got married. And the song remained the same. Sometimes great, sometimes OK. Just like before.

BTW, how long ago was that weekend fling? Like, 20 years ago? Have you been suffering since then?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ Have you been suffering since then?
Regardless of the where and when, who says I suffered from it?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I meant suffering from having had no sex in the last 20 years, not from the fun weekend. That wasn’t suffering at all. it wasn’t even sinful. It was just normal, grown-up fun.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ I meant suffering from having had no sex in the last 20 years…]
The last 20 minutes, last 20 days, last 20 weeks, or last 20 years, why would I be suffering? In a world that is just the world, there was no sin in it, which means any other sexual context whether people agree with it or not is not sinful either, just less accepted.

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The Penguin scratches her head in confusion.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ read two post above.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, it’s on your mind a LOT @Hypocrisy_Central. A lot. Like, some sort of obsession. Guys, especially, get that way when they can’t get any.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

If I do it 3–5 times a day I have some OCD complex, if I don’t do it for 12 years I have a frustrated complex….my sexuality doesn’t have to match anyone’s but what is OK with me. I have known married people who are more like brother and sister as you never see them show affection to each other or they may have slipped in conversation they don’t do sex, as they feel they don’t need it or grew out of it and no longer do it. then there are guys like “Hal” of Malcolm in the Middle who was ready go go at the drop of a hat or “Marcy” of *Married with Children” who could never get enough. Sometimes people as both get together and they are boinking everytime they get a chance and no one feels they are pressured into sex, or being starved of it.

Coloma's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central There’s a major flaw in your theorizing. Wanting “it” 3–5 times a day is an issue, not getting any for 12 years because you do not have a SO in your life and are not going for one night hookups or hookers may leave you sexually frustrated but that is much preferred to being some drooling, out of control humping dog man.

Dutchess_III's avatar

…humping dog man LOL!

Hey. You need to read your Kinsey report. If you did you’d know this is a ridiculous question for a woman. If you knew anything at all about woman the question would be “How many times in a week.”

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