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Theists: What would it take for you to become an atheist?

Asked by Dutchess_III (47050points) August 15th, 2016

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DrasticDreamer's avatar

A conversation with god. Even then, I might just assume I’d gone crazy.

NerdyKeith's avatar

Well I suppose I’d be kind of mirroring what I said in the question that inspired this one. I don’t regard myself as a “theist”, but as a deist.

Would I consider regarding myself as an atheist again? Quite possibly. It would be arrogant to write it off as a no. It is possible I could.

Now what I would expect is a reasonable argument against deism and the most common modern deist concept of a deity. I won’t expect evidence as I don’t expect an atheist to disprove God. But a reason based argument might do the trick. It would have to convince me that the God of deism has a very low probability of existing.

Although one thing that has been said about deism is that it is an undisprovable hypothesis.

DrasticDreamer's avatar

Er… Sorry. I read that completely backwards and tailored the question to my beliefs! Oops! Haha! :D

Dutchess_III's avatar

I admit I was scratching my head @DrasticDreamer!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Insanity or chronic brain damage from too mush drug use…..or some psychosis due to some brain illness.

Dutchess_III's avatar

…...“too mush drug use_”? HA! That was funny HC!

Setanta's avatar

Ah-hahahahahahahahaha . . .

Brilliant idea for a thread . . . even if was by a darned ol’ girl . . .

Dutchess_III's avatar

Well, it wasn’t my idea originally. I do find it interesting, though, to compare the number of answer on the original question, here, vs this one. What do you suppose it means?

Setanta's avatar

Theists are more obsessed with atheists than the reverse.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ Not from what I have seen here

NerdyKeith's avatar

@Setanta @Hypocrisy_Central There is an equal amount of obsession from both camps. Every groups has extremists.

Go to the R&S category over on Yahoo and you will see that they are pretty even matched.

babaji's avatar

Haha
absolutely nothing could
take me away from what i have experienced.
The Truth is within
waiting for anyone to experience.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Gosh…I told my husband last night that I’m an atheist. He didn’t even freak out! He just said, “Well, you didn’t used to be!” Wow.

Setanta's avatar

@NerdyKeith I don’t buy that, and you’re offering a form of anecdotal evidence. Some nerd you are.

Dutchess_III's avatar

In my anecdotal experience, Christians are much more vocal in their beliefs, and much more insistent that everyone think the way they do.
I’ve only met a few atheists who are actively on the rampage against Christianity. I don’t know why they would even do that, though, unless they were severely hurt by religion in the past. I mean, who cares if someone believes in Zeus or Athena or Apollo or Hera?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

^ […Christians are much more vocal in their beliefs, and much more insistent that everyone think the way they do.
Maybe some do, I just give people a fighting chance so they can’t say they were never told when that day comes. I know many will think as they want, even with the unknown destruction that awaits them, I have associates like and I don’t hate on them because they want to be their own god.

I’ve only met a few atheists who are actively on the rampage against Christianity.
Never in the real I have I met any, here on Fluther……well…..

Setanta's avatar

I’ve known of militant atheists, but haven’t personally known any. In my anecdotal experience, most atheists are what are called weak, or implicit atheists. They don’t assert that there is no god, they just say they don’t believe it. I’ve known quite a few, because people seem to sense it after a while. Then you get to talking, and find out that, like me, they just don’t believe it. I did meet one christian almost 30 years ago who became irate when he figured out that I’m an atheist. I don’t hide it, but I also don’t go around making a big deal of it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Exactly @Setanta. I just mentioned it to my husband the other night. When we got together in 2002 I was a firm Christian. Sometime around 2006 my mind started changing. 10 years later, just the other night, I said something to my husband. He wasn’t even shocked. He understood completely. In fact, he’s starting to have doubts himself….but he’s really too afraid to voice them. I understand that, too. It is a little scary.

Setanta's avatar

Billy Shakestick had his boy Hamlet express a sentiment of disquiet, which may resemble your husband’s

What a piece of work is a man! How noble in reason, how infinite in faculty! In form and moving how express and admirable! In action how like an angel, in apprehension how like a god! The beauty of the world. The paragon of animals. And yet, to me, what is this quintessence of dust? Man delights not me. No, nor woman neither, though by your smiling you seem to say so.

NerdyKeith's avatar

@Setanta You could always check it out anyway and make your own judgment. But every group is bound to have its share of knuckleheads

Setanta's avatar

As far as atheists are concerned, although I’ve never met and known any so-called “strong” atheists, explicit atheists, those of whom I’ve known I would characterize as knuckleheads.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I’m an atheist. I’m not a knuckle head.

Setanta's avatar

You’re being obtuse.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Am I? LOL! You “know” me to a certain extent. In your own words you said “Those of whom I’ve known I would characterize as knuckleads.”

NerdyKeith's avatar

@Dutchess_III Haha don’t worry I certainly would not put you into that category.

Setanta's avatar

Well, your Grace, i didn’t know you were that flavor of atheist.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Um, I’m chocolate covered cherry flavored. :D.

Setanta's avatar

You knucklehead!

Dutchess_III's avatar

LOL! That’s chocolate covered cherry flavored knucklehead to you!

Setanta's avatar

I beg your pardon, your Grace.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I’m amazing! :D

Setanta's avatar

Hayley Westenra’s Amazing Amazing Grace , your Grace.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Thenk you thenk you.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

A thought came to me while checking back to this question, I could become an atheist if I were given an effective frontal lobotomy, then it would be my altered mind doing such nonsense and not my rational mind.

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