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Cross Cultural Corned beef?

Asked by elbanditoroso (33578points) September 20th, 2016

The Irish have corned beef as a traditional delicacy. East European Jews also have corned beef as part of their culture (although without the cabbage).

How did two such disparate cultures both adopt corned beef as foo that contributed to their national identity?

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Seek's avatar

Irish immigrants to New York went looking for pork for their typical boiled dinner, found Jewish delis selling corned beef for cheap. Add some potatoes and cabbage and Bob’s your uncle.

Corned beef and cabbage is Irish-American food, not really Irish food at all.

Seek's avatar

I wouldn’t really call it a “delicacy”, either. It’s poor people food.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

The Irish and the Jews were thrown together in Manhattan as lower-class immigrants, no surprise if they shared some foods.

Lightlyseared's avatar

The Irish in Ireland only serve corned beef to tourists because that’s what tourists expect and shy of making a buck off tourists but do not consider it native cruise.

Stinley's avatar

I don’t think corned beef is an Irish dish in Ireland. I have never heard of it as such. It must be just Irish immigrants to the US as suggested above

Setanta's avatar

Corned beef is salt(ed) beef. It was called that because the beef was salted with “corns” of rolled salt—from the Old English term for any small grain. (Remember that the English use the word corn for grain, and not for maize, which is what Americans call corn.) I never saw corned beef offered anywhere in Ireland. I suggest that as salt beef and salt pork were used extensively in North America, it became popular. Why the Irish get blamed for it, I couldn’t say.

Cruiser's avatar

As far as I know Corned Beef and cabbage is more of an American tradition and East European Jews serve beef brisket as their traditional holiday meal at least my Jewish wife and her family serve brisket.

Colcannon (boiled new potatoes mixed with boiled white cabbage, boiled leeks or boiled onions to which is added butter, milk and wild garlic) is more likely to be considered Ireland’s national dish

BellaB's avatar

It’s likely related to my past neighbourhoods and friends – but to me corned beef means either Montreal Jewish deli or Jamaican bully beef.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rosengarten/its-corned-beef-time-but-_b_4958802.html

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