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US Jellies: Are you off today for Columbus Day? What did you do for this long weekend?

Asked by jca (36062points) October 10th, 2016

I’m off but I just had a death in the family so I’ve been staying put. Nothing special was done by me this weekend. I’ve been seeing people on FB putting posts up of beach weekends – I guess it’s a last hurrah before the cold hits.

Are you off today for Columbus Day? What did you do with your long weekend?

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Hawaii_Jake's avatar

I am not off today. We get some other state holidays in exchange at other times during the year.

rojo's avatar

No, no one I know is off.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Columbus and those who followed him aren’t fondly remembered here in the Caribbean. Just about everyone here has at least a few drops of Carib, or Arawak, or African slave blood running in their veins.

Seek's avatar

I don’t celebrate Columbus day, as there’s no good reason to do so. He was a rather unsavory character.

Today I did some reorganizing in my house, trying to improve my workspace in anticipation of my new temp job, which will start in a couple of weeks.

Jeruba's avatar

Isn’t this a social question?

I won’t defend Columbus, who made a great voyage but was not an admirable character. At the same time, though, I think we need our national myths and our heroes, at least a few of them, even if they were all too human.

How long before somebody starts to bring pressure to change the name of the District of Columbia and all those other place names that honor Columbus? And then what?

Seek's avatar

Well, we could name them for Lief Ericksson.

jca's avatar

FB gave me a “memory” from two years ago and I thanked Christopher Columbus for giving me a 3 day weekend.

There are Columbus Day parades around here which a lot of Italians are into.

@Jeruba: If the social comment was for me, I put it in Meta because it’s directed to Jellies, so I figured it’s Meta-worthy.

Mariah's avatar

I had Columbus day off. I was the only one of my group of friends who did, but one of my other friends has some PTO to burn before the end of the year so he took the day off and we played Pokemon Go and the new Five Nights at Freddy’s game all day.

It is already quite cold here in the Boston area, highs in the 50’s. We were pretty bundled up while we were out catching pokemon. I unfortunately came down with a cold overnight on Sunday but powered through it yesterday in order to hang out with my friend. Today I’m working from home because I feel like shit! Everyone at the office has been sick lately so I’m not surprised.

Saturday night, a bunch of friends from my last job got together at our usual bar because our old boss was in town from Arizona. It was lovely to see those folks again and catch up. My old boss is my hero.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

I see Columbus as a man of his time. He was an admiral, appeared vehemently Catholic (Queen Isabella and her religious adviser from childhood, the notorious Tomas Torquemada, would have it no other way), but their is evidence in his journals that he was more a man of logic than superstition. He was brave (or desperate) to the point of insanity, and tenacious. I have the logs of his first and second New World voyages in English. They are on the net. I have sailed his waters from the Bahamas to south of St. Lucia. He was a fascinating character.

I share no animosity toward him. Under orders, he carried with him—at unnecessary cost of space and provisions—two fanatical friars of the infamous Dominican Order, the brutal, militant order of priests created by Torquemada specifically to rid Spain of all non-Catholics. These were the prosecutors of the Inquisition.

Columbus’ orders were to seek out westward trade rout to riches of Asia and claim all “uncivilized” lands (uninhabited lands or lands inhabited by technologically inferior non-Catholics) for the Spanish crown along the way..The priest’s orders were to convert all “savages” found on the voyage to Catholicism or have them put to the sword. If Columbus wanted ships, he would have to abide by the conditions dictated by Isabella. .

He was the ambitious son of a Genovese wool weaver, and became a successful seafaring merchant/mercenary/explorer interested in new and better trade routs, repair stations and new sources of trade product. He had been sailing European, North Atlantic and west African waters for years.

He read widely about astronomy, geography, and history, including the works of Claudius Ptolemy, Cardinal Pierre d’Ailly’s Imago Mundi, the travels of Marco Polo and Sir John Mandeville, Pliny’s Natural History, and Pope Pius II’s Historia Rerum Ubique Gestarum. (Wikipedia)

He did very well, earning an admiral’s rank from the Portuguese crown and then married far beyond his station. His first wife was a redhead, Filipa Moniz Perestrelo, a woman from tiny Porto Santo Island in the North Atlantic Portuguese archipelago of Madeira. She was the daughter of a Portuguese Knight of Santiago who was also a valued member of Prince Henry the Navigator’s household. She had been educated in one of the most elite convents in Portugal and obtained the status of Comendadora of the Military Order of St. James, one of only twelve in her generation. She gave Colombus two sons of whom each became admirals and Spanish viceroys of the West Indies. She died eight years before his first voyage west.

Through her family, he had access to a vast library of nautical charts that had been collected from all corners of the known world and unknown and incomprehensible to other seafarers like himself. It is from these charts and his other readings that he formulated the idea that a shorter, safer, less competitive trade route to Asia could be had by sailing to the west. So, he went begging among the monarchs of Europe for ships, money and brave men to pursue this wild dream. Isabella of Spain eventually took him up on it and gave him three, small, old, rotting ships and a crew of wastrels, some of whom had never been to sea.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Edit: rout, routs = route, routes.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

I was off, spent the day babysitting my niece and I installed some shelving in my office.

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