Did the Democrats help Trump become President?

Well I just feel that if they did a much better job at supporting Bernie Sanders rather than Clinton, there could have been a very different outcome.

Yeah. Bernie should have been the nominee. The DNC actively worked against him. A few friends that I tried to convince to vote Bernie but didn’t have come to me and said they were wrong.

Sure there is no proof Bernie would have won the general election, but he probably would have.

RedState is a legit site, a conservative think tank

Redstate is a blog.

@tinyfaery You can certainly argue that Bernie would not have had to contend with an avalanche of bad press from WikiLeaks.

I don’t think anyone who calls themselves a Socialist could win in America. And I call myself one.

I’m sure there were Dems who voted for Trump and there were Repubs who voted for Clinton. I don’t see much benefit in trying to prove the effect of one or the other. They were two very unpopular candidates; one of them won the popular vote and one won the Electoral College.

Of course they did, any organisation that eagerly places someone like her at the helm gifts the immediate advantage to their opponent, the voters did the rest.

Yes!

I need clarification on the gist of the article. Are they talking about democrats switching affiliation to the GOP or democrats fraudulently voting as republicans.

Red State was a never Trump site, that writer in particular. The story is fact-free fantasy, claiming his win is a liberal conspiracy and no TRUE Republicans voted Trump.

@stanleybmanly I don’t think fraud in the sense of the word was at play…but my impression from the author was that Dems intentionally re-registered as Republicans to vote for the perceived weakest candidate.

“Even in Oregon, a Closed Primary, we saw 110,000 change registration in time, and my calculations are approximately 80,000 voted for the perceived weakest candidates. ”

Almost half the U.S. voting public helped this creature become president. THAT’s the scariest thing about the election.

It doesn’t matter. I saw in a graph that an average of 90 percent of white men and white women actually showed up to vote. Only 29 percent of minorities didn’t show up to vote. Out of that 29 percent the majority was for Clinton.
How many of them that were independent, or republican , or democrat, I don’t know. But with only a 29 percent show among minorities that is piss poor. That is why Trump won. It wasn’t who voted for him. It was, who decided to sit home and not vote.

I think so. I think Democrats in the media and social media calling Trump voters uneducated, deplorable, racist, and basically dismissing them as horrible, ignorant, unknowing people helped drive them to the polls. They showed us! Anger can really motivate people and I think a lot of them are angry of a variety of different things, not only being called “names.”

Now, I see liberal leaning people in the news saying things like, “yeah, I didn’t think about it at the time, but every time we mentioned the demographics white not college educated…that sound to them like we are calling them stupid.” Who is stupid now? I see it here on fluther. Someone writes a statistic about a group, I’ve done it, and half of fluther is all over that person for stereotyping, being racist, over generalizing, and all the other accusations that go along with it. Even I know better than to use sociological terms that sound negative to the audience if you are trying to win the hearts of those people.

I’ve been saying all year Democrats have to stop disrespecting Trump voters and being so condescending. Some Dems are saying the Democrats need to get more progressive candidates tostartvwunung political seats again. I disagree. I think it’s a misread of what happened. We didn’t lose because Hillary is too moderate. We lost because spokespeople for Hillary, and the people who supported her, including the left people in the media, called her middle America blue collar voters stupid and ignorant.

It’s almost too bad Bernie was the other democratic candidate. I’m not sure if he energized higher voter turnout in the end for Democrats, or if he created such a fierce loyalty for some, that those who wouldn’t have voted for Hillary didn’t. They might have either stayed home, or skipped voting for president.

Regarding the primaries, if Democrats voted for Trump, I don’t know if it was trying to sabotage things, or they genuinely wanted him. I don’t think a lot of people actually switch parties to sabotage the vote. I hear about it, but to give up voting for the person you actually want seems like a psychologically really difficult thing to do to me.

In closed primary states people switch parties even though they are truly independents at heart, so any switching of parties in closed primary states doesn’t mean as much as open primarily states.