Is Michael Moore going to get into trouble?
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December 19th, 2016
He offered to pay elector’s incurred fines if they switched their electoral vote.
Clearly a bribe, and clearly illegal under federal election laws.
Is he going to get into trouble?
Same question for people who used their computers (and thus identified themselves) to email electors and threaten them if they did their electoral duty.
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I feel like he may have talked to one of his lawyers about this prior to issuing the statement. Perhaps there is some reason it isn’t considered a bribe (although, clearly it is.)
Perhaps he’s just complacent. He’s always been polarizing. Maybe he feels he can say whatever.
He’s rich though. So he’ll probably be fine.
If he offered them to pay their court fines and the days of missed work and pay any fines they may have to pay and additional money for the grief they would have to suffer, then that is a bribe.
Otherwise, I see it as simply taking one of many road blocks out of their way, if they were already inclined to vote their conscious.
Threats is another matter all together. That is coercion and should be dealt with by the law.
I don’t know, will Trump get in trouble for offering to pay legal fees for people who beat up protestors at his rallies? By your logic, that is also bribery.
Is it a bribe? Sincerely asking. He’s not offering them something they wouldn’t get if they didn’t switch (e.g. I’ll pay you $1000 to switch), just removing a punishment/barrier for switching.
Threats are obviously wrong.
I doubt it since it’s not exactly a bribe but could be in a grey area. Other than that he can eat a dick.
What @Mariah said, not a bribe. More like paying someones bail ahead of time.
Bribes make people better off. Paying costs incurred is not a bribe. Loads of legal precedent for this. Adoption, surrogates et.c
He won;t get into trouble for offering to pay fines.
However, the FBI is probably chomping at the bit for January 21 to arrive so they can put him in jail for lèse-Trump.
@rojo It is funny you should mention that because I was talking to one of my treasured and rare Norwegian friends at the bus stop this morning and he likened Trumps assention to the presidency and what a Trump Presidency might look like to the reign of ‘The Sun King’ Louis the XIV. You can look him up. It sounds very probably. Like they are two peas in a pod.
(also, I think that would make a good new question if we discuss that. The shit that is going on in Poland is led by a crazy ass President my friends can’t stand (they are from Poland)) Also, we have freedom of speech here in Norway and no one is going to be prosecuted here in Norway under that. In fact that first people to defend it, would be our monarchy. Here is a cool speech given by the king recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQtLxYde-rw )
(that video and English translation is for you folks who somehow think the European monarchs live in some sort of bubble of conservatism. They don’t. )
The case might make it to the Supreme Court. An argument can be made that the Constitution holds that electors can vote however they want and that state laws to the contrary are therefore illegal.
Makes little difference now
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