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What do you think the punishment should be for Dylann Roof? (Details )

Asked by MrGrimm888 (19542points) January 5th, 2017

If you’re not familiar with the case, he’s the guy who shot 9 black people during a prayer meeting in church,in Charleston SC (USA)

He said he did it to start a race war.

He’s been found guilty, and last I read is awaiting sentencing.

He didn’t try the insanity defense which could have made him ineligible for the death penalty.

The recent Charles Manson news prompted me to ponder this.

Should Roof be put to death, or imprisoned for life? Keep in mind,there is no question that he was the shooter,he confessed,happily….

As some of you Jellies know, I live in Charleston. So this incident hit me hard. I park in that church’s parking lot once a week, when I work the door at a local bar.

I know it isn’t very American, but I’d be fine if we hung him in Marion Square (right by the church ) like they used to do with pirates. Let the crows pick at him….

I posted this in social so the thread could go wherever yall want…

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Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

I don’t support the death penalty. He should get life in prison, but it should be life. Not 20 years and then he can apply for parole. He should die in prison. I imagine there will be a few people in there who would love to have a chat with him about his ideas and desire for a race riot.

ragingloli's avatar

Acquittal, a medal from Trump, and the position of heading the justice department.~

flutherother's avatar

I understand your strong feelings over this case but I do not believe the state should have the power to take a human life. The only option remaining is to imprison him for life.

ucme's avatar

Get a big bad wolf to huff & puff & blow the roof down?

LostInParadise's avatar

I oppose the death penalty, so that would mean lifetime imprisonment.

I am wondering if his decision to defend himself in the sentencing hearing is a suicide wish on his part. He said that he was aware of what he was doing and has shown no remorse.

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elbanditoroso's avatar

What’s the normal means of execution in S Carolina?

Firing squad, electrocution, lethal injection? It doesn’t matter to me. For my two cents they can stake him to the roadway of I-26 and have a convoy of trucks run over him.

He’s a depraved piece of shit. No reason for the state to pay his lodgings for the next 50 years.

Seek's avatar

Banishment to an uninhabited South Pacific island. He can be his own problem.

josie's avatar

I oppose the death penalty, unless there is a confession by a sane person, and/or an unimpeachable eye witness- in other words, when there is no chance for the State to make an irreversible error.
In this case, my criteria are satisfied.

zenvelo's avatar

Life without Parole. And no electronic communication ever.

gorillapaws's avatar

Death by God (i.e. life in prison without parole). It IS a death sentence, one that comes after a lifetime in a cell.

CWOTUS's avatar

I think that I could say word-for-word what @josie already said. I have been saying for many years that I am “unalterably” opposed to the death penalty, but in a case like this… where he has confessed to the crime, has confessed to the depravity of his intent and where there is no possibility of prosecutorial error or malfeasance… my only stipulation would be that he should (even so) be put to death humanely. “Like a dog”, is fitting.

Cruiser's avatar

Life sentence no chance for parole and tossed in Cook County jail with the general population. He will spend most of his time in traction and the dentist chair.

filmfann's avatar

After watching 6 seasons of Game Of Thrones, I have lots of ideas.

MrGrimm888's avatar

The guy’s pretty young. He could live 70–80 years in prison. Probably requiring lots of security.That’s a lot of money…

There will be homeless people trying to sleep in the cold,with no food by that church tonight.
I work on Calhoun Street tonight. It bothers me that this scum will be warm, and well fed tonight…

Thanks to all for their contributions.

janbb's avatar

I also oppose the death penalty which to me means no exceptions so I’d have to go with life imprisonment.

Strauss's avatar

I’m opposed to the death penalty on moral grounds.

That being said, let’s suppose I felt the same way as @josie and @CWOTUS. Look at the financial burden to the state of a lifetime of imprisonment. Feeding, clothing, hygiene and healthcare for, say, 50 years. Would it really be that much more than a trial, the mandatory appeals, and then up to 30 years in segregated quarters on death row?

kritiper's avatar

Slow death by multiple shootings in various normally non-lethal by themselves parts of his body.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@Strauss – I think that you have made a key point. It’s something that @MrGrimm888 raised as well.

Look at the costs involved in imprisoning this guy for 50–60 years. How is this a good use of taxpayer funds?

janbb's avatar

@elbanditoroso @Strauss was making the opposite point actually – that a death sentence with appeals and imprisonment on death row for years potentially and then the execution also costs a lot of money.

ucme's avatar

He was very tall I think, if he were to be hanged the barbarians watching might yell raise the Roof
Double meaning gag, 2 for the price of one.

Strauss's avatar

@janbb You are correct. I haven’t done any actual math on it, but it seems to me that the cost of capital punishment, in the present system, might be the same or more than the cost of life imprisonment.

LostInParadise's avatar

The purpose of punishing a criminal is to get justice, not to minimize cost. That is why we call it the criminal justice system. Justice is comprised of restraint, deterrence, retribution, restitution and, though it is rarely used, rehabilitation. Link Cost is not supposed to be a factor. Can you imagine someone saying, “We were going to put you away for life, but due to recent price increases, we are going to have to kill you. No offense.”

Dutchess_III's avatar

Life in prison would be harder on him than death.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@Dutchess_III – I wonder how long it will take before he is murdered in prison.

CWOTUS's avatar

I wonder why, and of for how long, we keep accepting “murdered (or raped) in prison” as “a thing that happens so often as to not be newsworthy”.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Given the nature of his crime, not long @elbanditoroso.

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Dutchess_III's avatar

It’s not that it’s not noteworthy, @CWOTUS, but it is so common that they don’t report them, unless there are unusual circumstances, any more than they report murders on the outside. We only see a fraction of them in the news.

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Cruiser's avatar

Try and convict him as a domestic terrorist and lockup his sorry ass down in Guantanamo.

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abcbill's avatar

Jeffrey Dahmer was sentenced to something like 15 consecutive life sentences on February 15, 1992. On November 28, 1994, another inmate, who serving consectuive life sentences, beat him to death.

Dahmer lasted a little over two- nd a half years in the general population in the Wisconsin penal system.

Put Roof in the general population of a Southern prison and not even the white gangs will be able to protect him. He might last a year.

It really doesn’t matter. He is dead meat. There is no rationale to put him in the same level of protective confinement as, say, a former policeman. Roof is dead one way or another.

johnpowell's avatar

The state should not kill. But in this case I wouldn’t mind the state leaving a cyanide pill under his pillow. It should be his choice.

kritiper's avatar

@johnpowell Sodium cyanide or potassium cyanide?

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Does he need electrolytes with his poison?

kritiper's avatar

^In this case, yes.

Mariah's avatar

He got the death penalty, if anyone hasn’t heard.

janbb's avatar

@Mariah While my stance is still to oppose the death penalty, emotionally, I can’t say that I’m sorry.

LostInParadise's avatar

I am opposed to the death penalty, even for Roof, but I think of it this way. Given that there is a death penalty option, if you don’t use it on Roof, who would it be used on?

jca's avatar

I think on Death Row, the prisoner is not in general population which is a shame. It would be nice if he got his ass kicked, or at least was intimidated on a regular basis by some other prisoners.

Seek's avatar

I’m still pro-banishment.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@jca – when there’s a will, there’s away. I’m pretty confident that Roof will enjoy the death penalty, courtesy of his fellow inmates, within a year or two.

Seek's avatar

Nah. People on death row are on best behaviour for their appeals. You need lifers in gen pop if you want prison justice.

ucme's avatar

One of the relatives of a victim of the shootings came on the news earlier & said it’s in god’s hands now, that if Roof showed any signs of remorse he would be forgiven as god forgives everyone.
I found that extraordinarily passive & gave further proof that god is a fucking pussy.

elbanditoroso's avatar

@ucme – doesn’t it stand to reason, following that logic, that Roof was following god’s will when he shot the people in the first place?

If it’s in god’s hands whether Roof will be executed, wasn’t it in God’s hands when Roof shot up the people in the church?

janbb's avatar

@elbanditoroso I don’t know but I imagine what the person meant is that G-d will forgive him if he shows remorse but not that he won’t be executed by the state.

ucme's avatar

@elbanditoroso That’s a question for this relative, certainly not me.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Yup. Just heard. I’m pleased with the punishment.

My understanding is that he has never exhibited even the slightest remorse. He’s an example of the worst type of person, and I hope he sufferers as much as possible. Fuck him.

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