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Why is midnight and afternoon reversed?

Asked by RedDeerGuy1 (24945points) January 10th, 2017

12am and 12pm are reversed. What is what? 12am is midnight and 12pm is afternoon. Why is it like that?

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stanleybmanly's avatar

The morning begins at midnite and ends at noon. There has to be a standard, since our individual points of reference vary considerably. Even nature conspires to confuse us through constantly varying the durations of light and dark.

zenvelo's avatar

12 a.m, and 12 p.m. are both wrong!

The proper time designations are 12 midnight and 12 noon.

The m in a.m. and p.m. refers to the +meridian,_ and is a reference to the time that the sun crosses the meridian, which is astronomical Noon.

JLeslie's avatar

People screw it up all of the time. It’s by convention/tradition that AM designates midnight and PM is noon. @zenvelo is right that AM denotes antemeridian/ante meridiem, and PM is post meridien, etc. Some picky people don’t like the use of antemeridianand insist on ante meridiem.

My guess is that when filling out a form it all has to be standardized and there wasn’t space for noon and midnight. Kind of like D.C. isn’t a state, but on some forms for Washington DC you enter the DC in the state section.

I use noon and midnight a lot of the time so there isn’t any confusion.

It’s easy for me to remember 12: midnight is 00 on the 24 hour clock, and so that’s how I remember 12 midnight is AM.

zenvelo's avatar

An alternative way to keep it straight if you really need to use a.m. and p.m. is that 12:01 a.m. is one minute after midnight, so midnight must be 12:00 a.m.

Strauss's avatar

Because in the first second after noon it’s already afternoon. True, noon is technically not afternoon, nor is midnight morning, but 1200:00.00000001 (by the 24— hour designation) is definitely past 1200 hours.

JLeslie's avatar

Another trick is you only have to remember one, you don’t have to keep both straight. I use this whenever there is two things to remember that I confuse.

LostInParadise's avatar

For the same reason that the year 2000 was the beginning of this century rather than the end of the last. Any year of the form 2——is considered as belonging to the current century, including the year 2000. Since 12:01 am is in the morning, we include 12:00 am as part of the morning.

Strauss's avatar

@LostinParadise The year 2000 was technically the last year of the 20th century (as well as the last year of the second millennium). 2001 was the first year of the present century. A century is 100 years, starting with the year ending in 01.

LostInParadise's avatar

You are technically correct, but nearly everyone considers the year 2000 as the first year of the 21st century.

cazzie's avatar

It’s 12.00 and 00.00 so you are all wrong. ;)

JLeslie's avatar

Um, I think I said 00.

ragingloli's avatar

That is why intelligent people use the 24 hour scale.

zenvelo's avatar

^^^^ Intelligent people don’t need a prop like a 24 hour scale. We can handle an analog clock just fine!

cazzie's avatar

The AM and PM things are props. We also use week numbers.

LostInParadise's avatar

A 24 hour clock still has the same problem for 12:00. Is 12:00 am or pm? I assume that 00:00 would be am and maybe that would help people to use 12:00 pm.

zenvelo's avatar

@cazzie We also use week numbers.

Please explain. What is a “week number”? I don’t believe I have ever used one in the context of telling time or dates, only in the context of marking the x number of a sequence of y weeks.

ragingloli's avatar

@zenvelo
Intelligent people know how to simplify things for themselves.

cazzie's avatar

week number (ukenummer) http://ukenummer.no/

cazzie's avatar

@LostInParadise yes, 00.00 is am. Up to 23.59 is pm, then 00.00 is am, but we don’t write am or pm. There is no need, of course, when you use the actual hour and minute of the day.

cazzie's avatar

The terms, ‘Mid-night’ and ‘Mid-day’ do seem rather self explanatory.

LostInParadise's avatar

Thanks for the correction. That does make sense. It would also work for hours 1 to 24 instead of 0 to 23, but I think 0 to 23 makes more sense.

JLeslie's avatar

There is only one 12 in a 24 hour clock and it’s noon. The 24 hour clock has no confusion for any hour of the day. 6:00 is always in the morning and 18:00 is always in the evening.

Strauss's avatar

But there’s no 24.

JLeslie's avatar

There is 00.

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