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Which villain do you think was actally right all along? Which do you agree with and support?

Asked by Sneki95 (7017points) January 16th, 2017

Explain why.

No real life examples, please.

also, by villain, I don’t soecifically mean antagonist. You may as well have a protagonist with villanous intentions (not the anti hero).

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RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Lex Luthor. Without superman (An alien pushing his weight around on mortal indigenous humans) as an enemy then maybe he would be a good person.

Also MMPR mighty morphing power rangers killed a monster protecting its eggs In the original series.

ragingloli's avatar

The machines in the Matrix Trilogy.
It was the humans that started the war, and it was the humans that destroyed the world with an intentional nuclear winter in an attempt to starve the solar powered machines to death.
The machines are mercifully keeping the humans alive in a dead world, even providing them with a familiar environment.

Seek's avatar

Loli’s example is fantastic. Absolutely tops.

The “Wicked Witch of the West” just wanted her dead sister’s shoes back, and that damn farmgirl wouldn’t give them to her. What did the Witch ever do to anyone before those shoes were stolen? Far as I can tell she kept herself to herself in her castle in the middle of nowhere with her monkey friends. Not her fault the munchkins and the stuffy idiots in the Emerald City are afraid of green people.

cookieman's avatar

Magneto certainly has a point. Having lived through the holocaust where his family was taken from him and murdered, he had a front row seat to the cruelty of man against the “other”. No reason to believe man would treat mutants any better. When it was demanded all mutants register with the government, he knew where that could lead.

ragingloli's avatar

Cadmus in the DC Universe, who are opposing Superman’s “Justice League”.
Having a bunch of superpowered individuals, and even a space station with an ion cannon aimed at earth is a massive threat to the planet.
And the events in a parallel universe, in which Superman turned evil, overthrew the world’s governments and established a global tyranny, after the Joker killed Lois Lane, they are absolutely right.

zenvelo's avatar

Inspector Javert. Why was that convicted thief Valjean considered a hero, when he founded his business on the proceeds from stealing from a gullible priest?

cinnamonk's avatar

Colonel Kurtz – Apocalypse Now.

“We train young men to drop fire on people, but their commanders won’t allow them to write ‘fuck’ on their airplanes because it’s obscene!”

ucme's avatar

Hans Gruber
Hans Landa

Because…charisma

ragingloli's avatar

Do not forget Hans Olo

ucme's avatar

Also, Anton Chigurh

Blackberry's avatar

The villain in that movie The Rock. He just wanted money for the families of fallen soldiers.

Mimishu1995's avatar

Sometimes that cat Tom is the unappreciated victim. It is Jerry who starts the mess in the first place, and Tom is merely trying to clear thing up. He is viewed as the villain because the directors wanted to and because we are so used to associating Jerry with “the helpless victim being bullied”.

Sneki95's avatar

^ one random joke on the internet is that childhood is cheering for Jerry, and adulthood is realising Tom just wanted to protect his house from an intruder.

Berserker's avatar

Roger Bacon from the Shadow Hearts game series. He wanted to destroy the planet, so that an even more powerful Warlock, Rasputin, couldn’t rule. If he did, then nothingness would be a treat compared to Rasputin’s rule.
Of course he failed, and being a video game your heroes rose above it all. (in the sequel) But I loved the idea.

cinnamonk's avatar

@Sneki95 even as a child I hated Jerry and rooted for Tom.

Cruiser's avatar

No real life examples?? That is no fun. Trump

Brian1946's avatar

Frankenstein’s “monster” was basically right, because in many cases, “Fire bad”!

Zaku's avatar

@Brian1946 Frankenstein’s monster in Mary Shelley’s Frankenstein also had excellent points, but then devolved into obsession and murder.

King Kong is basically a victim protagonist.

Mummies have a point about home invasion and theft, etc.

ucme's avatar

Dick Dastardly

LostInParadise's avatar

Wile E Coyote. He is so inventive in his plans to capture the Road Runner. He does seem a bit obsessive, but I have to assume that he had some alternative means of sustaining himself.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Satan. Near universally reviled and hated for, what? His deeds were first to refuse to serve a tyrant, and then to bring knowledge and enlightenment to humans. God, beloved, revered, worshiped, would keep mankind enthralled in ignorance. Satan emancipated them.

Sneki95's avatar

@LostInParadise Wille E. Coyote was a parody of Tom and Jerry. He is basically Tom.

@Darth_Algar I agree that Satan could not be really taken as evil (it was never explained why exactly is he bad, that is) but he never brought anything to humanity ever. He appears twice in the Bible, and never did he help any human.

LostInParadise's avatar

I question the Tom and Jerry connection. Tom did not have any interest in eating Jerry. The two enjoyed making life miserable for each other, with Tom usually being the instigator and eventual loser. The Road Runner seems to be rather nonchalant.

Regarding Satan, one Biblical interpretation is that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan in disguise, which would go along with what @Darth_Algar said, since it is the serpent that entices Adam and Eve to eat from the Tree of Knowledge. The last thing I want to do is to get involved in an argument over biblical interpretation, so I am bowing out of any further discussion on this topic.

ucme's avatar

Donald Trump

Sneki95's avatar

@ucme “No real life examples, please.”

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Judas. Jesus was a trouble making shit disturber who forgot his place.

ucme's avatar

The Don is not real life, it’s all one big horrible nightmare, you’ll wake up soon.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@RedDeerGuy1

Actually some folks do view Judas as not exactly the villain he’s made out to be. After-all, Jesus’ arrest and crucifixion were a necessary part of Jesus fulfilling his purpose on Earth. Some folks have even proposed the idea that the whole thing (Judas’ “betrayal”, and all that) was set up in secret between Jesus and Judas. Why Judas and not one of the others? I guess the idea is that Judas was perhaps the only one of the group who would have had the resolve to carry out such an act (which would also play in with the idea of Judas being something of an extremist).

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

@Darth_Algar ~Jesus and Judas where caught kissing in the grove I believe. They spent lots of time alone. Maybe they had a lovers quarrel. ~ I believe your quip. Thanks.

lentil's avatar

I echo the person who said Javert from Les Mis. While I don’t agree with him, (because who could dislike Jean Valjean) I do realize that all of his actions were firmly rooted in what he truly believed to be the right thing to do. He valued the law above all else and really was just trying to do his job.

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