A crime committed by an immigrant in a Sanctuary City, is the city at fault for the crime in any way?
If a person who might otherwise be slated for deportation, but a city that is acting as a Sanctuary City shields him from it and while being protected he robs and kills a legal citizen because of road rage or money for a drug habit, etc. is the city at any fault for the crime happening?
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Why don’t you blame the city for every crime happening too?
If that’s the case then every city is responsible for every crime committed within its boundaries.
Like everyone else immigrants are criminals only after they commit a crime.
What if the crime rate among refugees is lower than the rest of the population? Should the city get a gold star?
The city prosecutes the crimes the same no matter what.
The term ‘sanctuary city’ means that the city will not check the immigration status of the person unless there is a reason to, and the city will not actively assist the Homeland Security (SS) department unless required to by a court order.
Non-sanctuary cities generally bend over and kiss the HS ass.
They aren’t “responsible.” Dude who committed the crime is responsible. The city’s responsibility is to prosecute him under our laws.
Unless it’s donald trump, in which case they give him a medal and pinch on the butt.
According to this Wikipedia article, U.S. immigrants have a slightly lower crime rate than the rest of the population.
^^^ The term ‘sanctuary city’ means that the city will not check the immigration status of the person unless there is a reason to, and the city will not actively assist the Homeland Security (SS) department unless required to by a court order.
Doesn’t an Executive Order supersede any court order? If there is any state of emergency and an Executive Order goes out, it might not jive with all laws or mandates by the court. But, that said, so, if the authorities are made aware of an immigrant that is not documented and they do not act themselves or fail or refuse to act if immigration inquired of the city if they have any known illegals or undocumented immigrants in their city borders and that person they did not act on with knowledge commits a crime against someone (or people) the city is all the way in the clear?
“Doesn’t an Executive Order supersede any court order?”
No. Fucking hell, there’s a frightening amount of people who seem to think like this since Trump has taken office. Checks and motherfucking balances. The president is not a dictator, his decree is not absolute (even if a lot of folks these days seem to want an absolute dictator).
@Darth_Algar He can still cause a hell of a lot of damage when he waves that pen around.
Illegal immigrants that commit violent crimes should not be given any kind of sanctuary.
That’s the idea behind “Kate’s Law” the Congress is working to pass now.
@gondwanalon :: Do tell, what happens to violent offenders in sanctuary cities?
Actually “Kate’s Law” doesn’t really have anything to do with sanctuary cities. It’s a proposed bill that would place mandatory minimum sentences on criminal offenders who have been deported then later returned to the US. I disagree with the idea of mandatory minimums, as I feel the judge presiding over a case should be allowed to use discretion in sentencing in order to weigh various factors.
A crime is committed by a white Christian male, is the city at fault for not deporting white Christian males?
Yes, the government of the city bears responsibility for it. Mayors who make their cities sanctuaries for illegals violate laws and should be arrested for violation of immigrations laws, plus they are responsible for crimes illegals commit. I think all religions should be eliminated, because they are destructive scams. There are many Christians citizens, so it is quite illogical to say a large group of citizens should be deported because of the acts of one. Citizens are not deported, but non-citizens are if the law is obeyed as it should well be. Illegals should be deported and thus have no chance to commit other crimes besides being here illegally. Some people show gross preference for illegals. That is appalling. They are brainwashed by liberal media who serve liberal politicians’ sinister purposes.
@SimpatichnayaZhopa
Perhaps they don’t have this concept wherever you’re from, but here there’s this thing called jurisdiction. Immigration is solely a matter of federal law. As such is it not under the jurisdiction of local authorities to enforce or prosecute. It is, in fact, an overreach by the federal to expect/demand that the local enforce federal law.
I know Logic better than my stalkers and harassers. You claim to know Logic while using logical fallacies. You are hanging up on me. Bringing your mindless liberal puppets to harass me I see. It is outrageous that anyone hates someone so much just for different ideas. Federal officers should be sent to arrest mayors who violate immigration laws. I see nothing new in what any of my stalkers and harassers say.
The word “logic” is not a proper noun, therefore it is improper to capitalize it.
It is capitalized for emphasis. In college, it is a subject and college subjects are capitalized. I need no lessons in languages. Youa re just desperate to manufacture flaws for me as the liberal media does to the president. That is a foul tactic, but you have no Logic on your side.
I know several languages, but lol is not a word in any of them. I reply Kojira no He in Japanese, Mao Pei in Chinese, Merde des Vaches in French, Eongdeongi in Korean, Mong in Vietnamese, Covno in Russian, etc.
It’s internet / text slang for Laugh Out Loud. It’s only been around about 25 years. Sheesh.
I was not born in the USA. I have lived in several nations. It is insulting as I knew, since you do nothing but insult me. Get a life. You trolls have occupied most of my time here today. I need to ask some of my friends to join Fluther.
Lol isn’t a US thing, it’s pretty much universally used across the internet regardless of country.
Just to clarify, I don’t understand what they mean by Mong. If they really mean “ass”, that word is not even insulting one bit in Vietnamese. They clearly use Google translate. It comes from me so you can be sure it’s real :P
Awww, someone learned a few curse words in some other languages and thinks that makes them multilingual. Reminds me of that kid in my classroom who thought he was so clever since his dad taught him how to say the equivalent of “eat a dick” in Korean.
Butt is Pigu in Mandarin, Asno in Filipino, Cul in French, Arsch in German, Culo in Italian, Portuguese and Spanish, Ketsu in Japanese, Eongdeongi in Korean, Zhopa in Russian, Esek in Turkish, Mong in Vietnamese, etc. Manure is Shi in Mandarin, Si in Cantonese, Tae in Filipino, Merde in French, Scheisse in German, Merda in Italian and Portuguese, Kuso in Japanese, Ttong in Korean, Govno in Russian, Mierda in Spanish, Bok in Turkish, Cu’t in Vietnamese, etc. I have lived in several nations and studied several languages.
When did the discussion about a crime become a language showoff?
Merry Xmas is Shengdankwaile in Mandarin, Singdaanfaailok in Cantonese, Malagayang Pasko in Filipino Tagalog, Joyeux Noel in French, Frohe Wiehnacht in Geman, Buon Natale in Italian, Meri Kurisumasu in Japanese and Korean, Feliz Natal in Portuguese, Rozhdyestvom in Russian, Mulum Yillat in Turkish, Chu Giand Sinh Vui ve in Vietnamese, etc. How are you is Ni hao ma in Mandarin, Lei ho ma in Cantonese, Kumusta na kayo in Filipino, Comment allez-vous in French, Wiie geht’s in German, Come va in Italian and Portuguese, Ogenki desu ka in Japanese, Kak pazhevayete in Russian, ... ... etc.
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