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Did Elizabeth Warren make inappropriate comments before she started reading Corretta King's 1986 letter, opposing Sessions' proposed appointment back then?

Asked by Dutchess_III (47050points) February 8th, 2017

If you haven’t heard, Warren was shut down by the GOP while reading King’s letter, which has a much resonance and relevance then, as it does now.
However, subsequent to that several of her colleagues stepped up and they read the letter, or parts of it, without interruption.

What was different about her attempts to read the letter vs others?

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janbb's avatar

She didn’t as far as I can tell. I just saw a post by Bernie Sanders on FB about it; you should be able to go there and see it.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I actually, finally sat down at watched 90% of the entire floor speech. Here’s the gist of what happened:
The incident in question comes in at about 23 minutes.
She was in the middle of reading Coretta King’s letter from 1986, opposing Sessions nomination for his appointment to the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Alabama.
The Senate leader suddenly stopped her and cited “Rule 19,” which says you can’t impugn any fellow senator.
She said, “What? I reading Coretta King’s letter.”
The leader (listening to someone off camera) says, “You said he was a disgrace.”
She said, “I was quoting Senator Ted Kennedy’s comments about his nomination in 1986 (which she’d made, about 15 minutes earlier, before she started reading the letter.) Those weren’t my words…but I’ll be happy to repeat them in my own words.”
Leader, “Blah blah blah blah Rule 19.”
Warren looked at him like he was a fool, said, “Well, apparently it wasn’t a rule back then,” and went on reading Coretta’s letter, which she was allowed to do to the end, uninterrupted.

You all really need to watch this. You really, really do.

(I want to know why know you can’t impugn a fellow senator. You need to ‘pugn, ‘pugn, ‘pugn his butt all the way up the dell, if he deserves it, which Sessions does. Watch this video. )

rojo's avatar

McConnell, who later allowed male Senators to read the letter, should be censured by the entire Senate for what he did. He should be forced to write “I will not be a misogynistic chauvinistic pig” a thousand times on a blackboard before a joint session of the Congress and live on CSPAN.

So, @Dutchess_III who was he listening to off camera?

rojo's avatar

Why is it that whenever I see a picture of McConnell I think of the term “Daub and Wattle”?

Dutchess_III's avatar

I don’t know who he was listening to. It was a female voice handing him the lines for which to frame his objectoin.

@rojo she was not silenced. She was not stopped from reading the letter. It was a brief interruption (albeit a stupid one) that happened to occur in the middle of her reading King’s letter, but had nothing to do with the letter.
The media blew it all out of proportion. This is the media that I usually trust, too (CNN.) Disappointed.

janbb's avatar

@Dutchess_III I guess you haven’t read about the part of the story where she was banned from participating any more in the discussion about Sessions’ nomination. Here’s one link but there are other stories. McConnell had the Senate vote to censure her. Then other Senators got up and read the same letter.

It is a big deal.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I’m not talking about what I *read, @janbb. I’m talking about what I saw with my own eyes. It wasn’t what the WRITTEN MEDIA made it out to be, at least not during her speech. She finished her speech. I guess she had said what she had to say, and no one stopped. her.

IT. WASN’T. ABOUT. KING’S. LETTER. No one stopped her from reading it.

I can’t access your link. Post says I have to pay if I want to read any more.

If there is more, as you indicate, I’ll have to look into that too, but it had nothing to do with King’s letter.

rojo's avatar

What @janbb said.

@Dutchess_III try this link: Warren Blocked From Speaking During Sessions Confirmation Debate.

From referenced article “Senators voted along party lines, 49–43, to uphold a ruling of the chair, blocking Warren from speaking for the remainder of the debate on confirmation of fellow Sen. Jeff Sessions as attorney general.”

Dutchess_III's avatar

I’m not sure at what point in the entire debate the video you posted above occurred, @rojo, but I do not think it was during her reading of Corretta King’s letter. I’m going to include the video of her full floor speech. It’s 50 minutes long. I watched all but the last couple of minutes.
This objection which begins at 23:23 and was discussed and refuted by Warren. She finally asked to finish and she was granted permission to finish. At that point she finished reading the letter, and talked for another 20, 25 minutes.

You can hear for yourself that during the objection she said, “I can’t read Corretta King’s letter?”
The president said, “The object wasn’t referring to that. It was referring to the fact that you mentioned Sessions was a disgrace.”
She said, “I didn’t say that. Senator Kennedy said that in 1986. But I’ll be happy to put it in my own words.”
A bit more back and forth and she was allowed to continue.
She may have been blocked from speaking for the remainder of the debate after that, but she sure got her licks in first!

“Here is that video. You can pick up the objection at about 23:00.

Now we have to find at what point the video you posted, @rojo, occurred.

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