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Should I go public and tweet this situation?

Asked by cazzie (24516points) March 1st, 2017

I’ve bought my business partners out and they are blocking my access to the company accounts that they blocked me out of a year ago. Should I tweet the situation live as it happens because some of their responses are completely stupid.

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chyna's avatar

I never think it’s a good idea to air your dirty laundry.

cazzie's avatar

This isn’t my dirty laundry. This is their obvious obstructionist tactics. One is both trying to claim ignorance and then saying she knows what she needs to do, but she won’t do it.

Sneki95's avatar

Do you want to reveal business deals to the public?

cazzie's avatar

What they are doing is in no way sensitive to the company. They are showing that they are morons… and… I can either embarrass them, or take them to court. Or both… bonus.

cazzie's avatar

They are in breach of contract. There is no ‘tausetplikt’ in place. I can say and tweet and repeat what I want….. and if they back out on our deal, I will be repaid the capital investment… so… I covered my ass. yeah… because I’m a bad ass in that way. No one fucks me over in business. I vowed never again and I meant it. Even it meant learning a whole new set of rules in a new country.

cazzie's avatar

One of the partners answers my email using one of the company’s email accounts. She professes to not having password to this email. How am I supposed to reply to that sort of ignorance…. ??? so I explained that she could get a new password,,, she tried to say he didn’t understand… so, THEN I got hard on her and she imojied laughed at me that she new what I wanted and how to get it, but she wasn’t going to do it.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Why would they care about tweets?

jca's avatar

@cazzie: I wouldn’t but you sound like you want to. If so, then do.

LuckyGuy's avatar

If you do, make sure everything is 100% factual. Use direct quotes. with dates, and keep the sources. You will need those anyway for court if it comes to that.

Cruiser's avatar

It’s not working for Donald Trump and I doubt Tweeting infighting discourse will achieve any better results. I would change passwords and block their access to any and all accounts.

LostInParadise's avatar

Sure, why not, but like @LuckyGuy says, make sure you have evidence to back up whatever you say. Before tweeting, you can try to warn them first. Maybe that will get them to change their minds. In the end, you may need to take legal action.

cazzie's avatar

I would only tweet what they are saying. So, it would more like the Whitehouse Leaks account.

JLeslie's avatar

I think it’s a bad idea to tweet something that is assumed to be private conversation. I’d find a different way. Even when I’m hating someone I try to always stay with that rule.

gorillapaws's avatar

Really bad idea. Go to a lawyer instead. Tweeting will accomplish nothing except perhaps getting you slapped with a defamation/slander lawsuit (or is it libel?—does a tweet count as published work?).

funkdaddy's avatar

Let’s say it’s a year from now. You find a new possible partner that you’re considering joining up with. In looking at her twitter account she’s shared private conversations with people she’s done business with in the past and it seems to have gotten nasty.

What would you think?

JeSuisRickSpringfield's avatar

Who is your intended audience? I don’t see why anyone looking at such a display would want to do business with them or you. When people see “look how stupid my business partners are!” they read “and how smart can I be when I willingly went into business with them?” When they see “look how embarrassing these messages are!” they read “imagine how stupid I can make your messages look if I become dissatisfied with our business relationship!” I’m not saying these reactions are necessarily fair, but you don’t want to make yourself look silly or vindictive in front of people considering whether or not to do business with you.

jca's avatar

Good points by @funkdaddy and @JeSuisRickSpringfield. It looks petty and might turn off potential customers and future partners.

BellaB's avatar

Talk to a lawyer.

Jaxk's avatar

If you go public with this kind of infighting, you are telling the world that you don’t have control of your business. I have no idea what kind of accounts you are talking about but if you don’t have control of some you may not have control of others. Customer, financial, confidential records could all be out of you control. That should make everyone associated with your business, nervous. I wouldn’t do it.

Coloma's avatar

As tempting as it may be to seek some sort of revenge in this manner I concur with others, see an attorney and drop the intention of embarrassment. It will only fuel the fire, the best way to fight fire is with legal fire.

AshlynM's avatar

No, I wouldn’t. You have to be careful of what you say. You better have a way of proving what you’re writing is true. They could possibly sue you for libel.

Pachy's avatar

No. It’s no business of anyone but you and your company.

cazzie's avatar

Oh, I suddenly realise you guys don’t have enough information to make a real call here. Sorry. Those are the details I’ll keep quiet, but the ignorance of my past partners is laughable and should be shared. It is seriously funny material. But I think I’ll let an ombudsman laugh at them because after what happened today, I’m going to have to take them to mediation.

If you guys knew what was happening, you would be laughing, too.

Darth_Algar's avatar

I don’t know what industry you’re in, but I probably wouldn’t do business with someone who engages in petty Twit- fighting. It just looks narcissistic and immature. Seek a legal solution. Don’t go the route of a teenage drama queen initiating a silly bitchfight with her ex’s new girlfriend.

cazzie's avatar

Oh, @Darth_Algar see… yeah… you guys don’t know the whole story, so… forget it. It’s basically a shelf company now. It hasn’t traded in 6 months and isn’t a going concern. They are fighting over NOTHING, which is why it is so stupid. I bought the company. I paid the debts, organised the accounting and made sure the filing requirements for taxes were met, and they won’t give the passwords to the email, facebook and other accounts that are under the business name.

If you all want to be bored by accountant speak, I’ll elaborate, but otherwise I’ll spare you. it was, in concept a great idea. Shame about them back stabbing me.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Didn’t get the validation you wanted huh?

cazzie's avatar

Can’t validate parking when you don’t have rights to the carpark.

It was a dumb question. You guys don’t have all the facts. You are right with your opinions, if the facts were not as weird and obscure and un-guessable…. So… I shouldn’t have asked this this way. It was really unfair of me.

cinnamonk's avatar

Beyond gratifying your immediate desire to humiliate these people, how would tweeting about this situation benefit you?

cazzie's avatar

I’d like to warn anyone they may approach in the future. The business we were in is very susceptible to people who take advantage of folks and their skills. I don’t want them taking thousands of other people’s money so they can exploit and lie and then steal their ideas.

jca's avatar

@cazzie: If you are referring to a Facebook page, you may or may not realize that a FB page is attached to someone’s account. There’s no separate log on like there is for email. I found this out when trying to get access to my organization’s page. I was given access by having it linked to my page (by making me a manager or whatever they call it). I was thinking the person was withholding giving me the password and that wasn’t the case.

Cruiser's avatar

@cazzie I had a very similar situation with a now ex-partner who was stealing from our company. I have every expectation he will resurface somewhere in our industry and I had to resist the urge to take out a web page chronicling his criminal activities so my competitors were aware of his untrustworthiness. I had to ask myself how it would look to others especially my vendors and even the competitors that the VP of this company was stealing from his own company and how that might reflect badly on the company as a whole.

I derive satisfaction knowing how much of an opportunity he blew and that I now have complete and total control of my company.

cinnamonk's avatar

Be like Cruiser and gratify yourself by taking the high road instead.

If they’re really that stupid, they will inevitably orchestrate their own humiliation and downfall. No work on your part required.

marinelife's avatar

I would think it would be more effective to have your legal counsel contact them or draft a letter threatening legal action.

cazzie's avatar

One of them, the one that has been running and bullying her way to her own ruin, is insisting we meet tomorrow in person and the only reason she does this is so she can try to intimidate me.

cinnamonk's avatar

secretly record her and then take the recording to a lawyer.

cazzie's avatar

I did that with my last meeting, but I didn’t need to take it to the lawyer.

Brian1946's avatar

I know hindsight is 20/20, but did you ensure that you had access to the accounts before you transferred the purhase funds to them?

cazzie's avatar

I have access to the bank account, yes. I did make sure of that. The iZettle account, email and facebook page are what I’m insisting on now.

cazzie's avatar

Wow… she sent me the iZettle account and she has deleted absolutely everything. All records are gone. Surely, that isn’t legal.

jca's avatar

She needs to add you to the FB page as a manager and then remove herself.

cazzie's avatar

She is refusing to do that. She wants to delete everything, which is what I was thinking she was doing.

Zaku's avatar

I’d involve a lawyer, not a web site.

cazzie's avatar

meanwhile, she is deleting all contacts and past information.

cinnamonk's avatar

she’s preparing to abscond!

cazzie's avatar

Right… now she is saying that the facebook page is deleted. Looks like it is, but I bought the company and the marketing base and the logo….. She is an evil bitch.

jca's avatar

If the FB page is what I think it is, it’s still there.

cazzie's avatar

it isn’t showing up for me.
I think I can write to Facebook somehow and tell them, but the stupid system isn’t letting me.

Zaku's avatar

Document everything done and talk to a lawyer.

cazzie's avatar

I’m going through the accounts now an I have found two unpaid creditors. They assured me all creditors had been paid, other than the accountant. I’m also finding that there were special shop fittings the business bought but they haven’t been produced. They also deleted ALL emails and have side emails related to the business that I have not been given access to. Instagram, Facebook, iZettle…. all deleted. All after the purchase date on the documents. This is criminal destruction of property. I can actually back out of this deal until the 13th of April and I think I might do just that, if I can get the extra capital I invested back. I’ll call the bank on Monday as well as a lawyer. This woman is crazy. I’ve dealt with business deals for over 20 years, and no one I have ever dealt with has done this crazy shit. Oh… except for the franchise thing….. that was some crazy shit, too.

jca's avatar

I see you posted their names on FB, @cazzie. I hope you don’t get in trouble for slander or something.

cazzie's avatar

Can’t slander what isn’t false. They deleted the stuff. There are outstanding creditors according to the records from the accountant (which mean she lied to me about that) and I have no idea if there has been any correspondence because she deleted everything. Also, this isn’t the US, so we don’t have those types of laws or the civil litigation crap that goes on over there.

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