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Still grieving after more than 35 years. How are these things dealt with?

Asked by Yellowdog (12216points) March 12th, 2017

When I was fifteen years old my girlfriend moved away to a place far enough away that it was a permanent separation.

In those days about the only communications were regular mail (writing) and the old-fashioned landline telephones. Long Distance phone calls were very expensive in those days (even for today) and I didn’t get a lot of money (I went without eating and saved my school lunch money for several months in order to buy a half-hour phone call).

She returned about one year later when her mother visited a relative, but we were never able to see each other due to schedules—which may have scarred me even more than the original separation.

My persistent phone calls that week probably finished off what was left, if anything, of our relationship—though I might have tried to keep the relationship alive until we could be reconciled if she had been willing. I wrote her occasionally and sent cards for four more years.

Twelve years after that, I was still grieving so intensely that I went for help at a counseling center—one counselor was somewhat helpful but a later one a little more judgemental so I didn’t continue. A third one I met in a random place told me that I had done all I could do and somehow that gave me some resolve.

Twenty-Five more years have passed since then, and 37 since the original separation, and I am now more than fifty years old and have a girlfriend right now who wants a real relationship. I DO love her and she knows it so all is well.

Except that I am still stunted and scarred from this thing in my distant past. Especially in dreams.

I suspect that I am especially prone to this when I am grieving or troubled or shaken by something else in my life that brings similar feelings. But I still awaken sometimes with those heart-wrenching feelings I had all those years ago, and they stay with me throughout the day.

Communications are better today and I might be able to contact her on Facebook, though several years ago she rejected by friend request— and I really don’t think knowing her today would resolve the hurt and trauma that was left unresolved back then. Though maybe I’m wrong. It is also possible if I did dialogue with her that I’d go absolutely crazy—seriously.

This might be described as some form of what used to be called Melancholia—a term used to describe a number of mental conditions and even physical illnesses. Or it may be I am experiencing some sort of midlife crises—which might be more serious than the words imply. I seem to be entering into one of those phases now that seem unbearable that happen to me from time to time.

One counselor diagnosed this as post-traumatic stress—even though its not battle-fatigue or from an act of violence. Heck, I WAS a victim of violent crime, and the memories are NOTHING compared to the loss I experienced in my mid-teens.

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marinelife's avatar

Wow. I think that you need to deal with this to move forward with your life. It is really not about losing your girlfriend. It is about you.

First love is always poignant and especially bittersweet. It represents all of the possibilities of perfection. You were torn apart, and therefore you never got to have the everyday give and take of relationship. Thus, you have become fixated on dreams. Every time you start thinking of her, look in the mirror and say out loud, “She is now a 50-year-old woman who farts and poops. Perhaps she became a shrew or she was unfaithful.”

Instead of thinking about what might have been focus on how she did treat you when you contacted her afterward. She could not even work out the time to see you when she visited your town after leaving. Did she write you back? Initiate calls? Try to see you? No, she moved on with her life. That is what would have probably happened if the two of you had stayed in the same place.

Think instead about the woman you are with now. The loving things that she does for you and say to you.

Spend some time learning to love yourself.

Take care of yourself. I wish you peace and the ability to live in the moment not dwell on something 35 years in the past.

Yellowdog's avatar

Still want to say— I AM in a relationship now, the woman I plan on spending the rest of my life with. And even before this relationship started a couple of years ago, I had decided that the girl in my past—or whatever the memory had distorted to—was not the woman she is today

Thanks, Marinelife—I haven’t read your response yet as you were already responding when I started this—but I can tell enough from your first paragraph.

Yellowdog's avatar

Thanks, that was precisely what I needed to hear / read.

ZEPHYRA's avatar

You know very well how hard you tried and how much effort you put into reaching across to her.
If she really wanted closure at any point, she would have made an effort too. You say she rejected your Facebook friend request. Well, there you have it. She moved on and so did you.

Seems you are fighting to make everyone happy and in the process the one who is getting left behind is you! I am not saying we should not do our best for others, but think about yourself too. You are a sad soul striving fill in the gaping holes opened by life. You have enough on your plate at the moment without having to deal with the pain of a past love. You tried, you did all you could and it’s over. Move on, you need the energy to deal with your current issues. That lady belongs to the pages of the past chapters of life. I am sure if you met her now you would be surprised at how things have probably turned out for her too.
Take care.

MrGrimm888's avatar

I agree with what’s already been said above. I just wanted to add that I think this is normal. Once you love someone, you always do. No matter what they do to you,or how much time goes by. Such things are burned into our soul. The pain,and emotional injury are not a welcome thing,but they help make us who we are now. Someone we wouldn’t be without our past,and these past heart aches make it more likely to try and enjoy what we do have, and be a better person ultimately.

Try and enjoy your current situation. Know that you and this girl from the past live happily together in your memory. Allow yourself to bask in the warmth of those memories, but keep looking forward.

There’s a reason that the windshield is way bigger than the rear view mirror @Yellowdog . We’re meant to pay more attention to what’s in front of us,but not lose sight of how we got there.

I empathize with your situation.
Good luck moving forward.

Peace n love.

Love_my_doggie's avatar

Those pure-hearted, deep, and tender feelings of first love may never leave you.

As I’m sure many people have told you, however, you’re in love with idealized memories. Your feelings have little to do with the person, and everything to do with your past self – the romance and nostalgia. Your adult self can’t compete with those perfect memories of youth, and a real-life, adult relationship pales next to a fantasy. You protect and cherish those moments when you first felt magic, because you’d found the mystery of love. At least some part of you yearns for Yellowdog 1.0, who was discovering life and about to embrace it.

It’s very good that you appreciate the woman in your life and won’t do anything to jeopardize your relationship. Those are the thoughts of a sane and responsible person.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I am in your age range. I too lost someone through similar circumstances. One day I searched the internet, and found him. There were photos. He had a wife, bunch of kids.
He no longer looked like the smiling, joyful, fun young man I shared such very special times with. He looked tired, even in the pics where he smiled. He was so fat he didn’t look tall anymore. He was going bald. He and his wife looked like if you combined their teeth you might get a full set.
I wasn’t hoping to rejoin with this man, I was only curious how his life had gone.
Seeing those pictures gave me the shudders. Those sweet memories were tainted.
Memories grow sweeter over time than what reality ever was. However, real life does the opposite. It grows harsher. Do yourself a favor. Let the memories of that relationship be like chocolate cake. It was delicious. It was special. It made you giddy, BUT you don’t want it to come back up!

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

I’m sorry you are still struggling with this @Yellowdog. I’ve been known to stalk former lovers online, not because I want to be with the, but because I’m nosey. And my ex-husband’s first girlfriend broke up with him before I came on the scene, and I noticed after we broke up many years later that all his future girlfriends looked a little like me or (I suspect), we all looked his first girlfriend. I think hanging on to a little closeness for those we once loved is pretty normal, what’s not normal is if it’s holding you back from your life now. In the end, if you’ve seen therapists and are still clinging to this old love, only you can help yourself. You have to find a way to accept that what you are hankering after is not reality. She didn’t want you when she had the chance and you now have a lover of your own who deserves the attention and love you are wasting on this lost love. I hope you can find a way to really and truly move on.

LeavesNoTrace's avatar

Please don’t stalk your ex from 37 years ago block her on FB so you won’t be tempted to look and obsess. See a counselor to sort out these obsessive feelings so you can live in the present.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I’d guess that at this point your grief is based on a fantasy. Seek counseling.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

He has seen three counsellors so far. See par five. Although it would seem worth trying again @Yellowdog. How long did you see each of the counsellors for?

flutherother's avatar

“What might have been” could drive us all mad but it isn’t reality and we have to move on. “Love the one you’re with” is the best advice I can give.

answerjill's avatar

My story is a little different, but maybe it will be helpful. I had a massive crush on a boy all through jr. high and high school. I never really went for it, though, and in later years, I heard of the term limerance (from Wikipedia “the state of being infatuated or obsessed with another person, typically experienced involuntarily and characterized by a strong desire for reciprocation of one’s feelings but not primarily for a sexual relationship”). Anyway, we went our separate ways and I never saw him around after we both left for college. I found that in my mid/late 30s, I still had a bit of that old crush, even though by now I hadn’t seen him in two decades. Anyway, here’s what helped for me. I knew that he was now married with children. I found his mailing address and wrote him an old-fashioned greeting card, just saying hi and that I wanted to touch base since it had been so long. I gave him my phone number, email, address, and mailing address and never heard back from him. That pretty much cured most of the remains of my childhood feelings for him!

Yellowdog's avatar

That’s a good word and concept— thanks!

When I found out that my childhood sweetheart (the girl who this question is about’) was married, after a brief conversation with her mother — I told her to tell her that I was happy for her. I have a good voice and sounded confident but intent, and wished her love.

It gave me some closure but it still hurts a little sometimes. Thanks for the word.

crazycool's avatar

I think I understand what you have not let go of and why…..I went through something similar…..But keep in mind after years of what you say you are dealing with,,,,just as I…it only took a few short minutes once I did see that person again to get rid of the feelings I thought I had and held onto for so long..I felt silly for holding onto what I did not need to but I did,just like you…In seeing them I didn’t see the same person nor was I.I had no feelings really as I thought I would feel my heart flutter once I saw them again..nope..So I felt foolish.I even laughed at myself a little..Isthere something about the rejection that when you tried to communicate but she wasn’t interested that makes it worse not better adding to the uncomfort you already had?.

Yellowdog's avatar

Thanks to all who responded back in March, 2017.

Your words and counsel were all helpful. But those feelings still return from time to time. In spite of the fact that I am currently in a relationship. This is something in my past that just won’t heal, I feel I need to do something to deal with it, but I am not sure what.

MrGrimm888's avatar

Counseling? There should be plenty of free, and/or state sponsored counseling available in your state.
Also. Not to be a jerk, but it has been 35 years. This person may not even be alive still…

Yellowdog's avatar

Oh, she is. Its now been 39 years.

She’s married but still goes by her maiden name for unknown reasons. Has children. Is a paralegal. Saw her on Linked In.

I have no interest in a relationship, and am already in another. But I’ve considered making a wrong number to her office just to hear her voice again. Probably not wise.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Understandable. But yeah. Not wise…

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