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Friend or is he?

Asked by Goldpepper (71points) April 6th, 2017

Hey guys, I am new here and would love to join this new community.
English isn’t my first language so no rudity about that.

Well I am 26 yrs so I am not a kid.

My question is I have (basically had) a friend (I don’t know if the friendship was/is mutual)

Well he is my husband’s best friends and that’s how I got to know him (I really didn’t have that good of a rep about him untill I got to know him)

By the way till last year I have known him for 6 years

So everything was good and he was really there for me during my down episodes, just having a conversation with him brought so much of mental peace. Well I don’t call or meet up(we live in different countries)

The thing is I have always been the conversation starter with him because initially it was like I messaged him when I felt low and we conversed untill my mood got uplifted and then I wouldn’t message untill I have another episode (I personally had a tough time during the time I got to know him) he patiently answered all of my queries, our conversation are spread throughout the day rather than for sometime during those time I got to know pretty much everything about him but he never really got to know me or ask personal questions ever.

Well the more I got to know him he became more of a everyday i message them type of friend (I do have some female friends that text me everyday and I text few of my friends like that).

My problem started when he wouldn’t write or just say hi even if I don’t write him for a couple of months due to getting busy.
Even if he knew I was having an issue he wouldn’t message saying hey are you alright is everything ok, can I help you, those types of messages. So I confronted him and he said he is usually not the starter with any of his other friends or he is bad at keeping touch (i asked my husband about this and he said yea my friend doesn’t text unless he really has to) but the thing is they get to meet up or talk over the phone which I don’t get to do. (Messaging is just more convenient for me) this kept going on and it really started to frustrate me. The more I thought about it the more I wanted to get rid of this friendship (I always felt if you want to keep in touch you will no matter which type you are).

We spoke about ending our friendship a few times and he was absolutely fine with it (saying he cannot force me to stay) but when I finally gave up is when I realized I really enjoyed his company and I was stupid enough to give up. So I told him I cannot say goodbye and I want to have my friend back in my life and he was ok with it too. But things were not the same he replied less frequent (like before he never failed to reply to my message when he is online and would make sure he does get into my conversation once he is done with work.) Replies got so less frequent he took weeks or he plainly ignored them.

I confronted again about this and he said he was too busy with work and becoming a new dad (no one is too busy for some one of priority) was he so jobless before that he responded prompt?

I don’t know now it’s been almost a year since I messaged him. I sometimes miss texting him but I got used to it now.

Was he really a friend or was he just being kind because I was his best buds wife. If the later was the only reason why did he have to put up with all my moodswings and complaints?

Was I too demanding inspite of him telling me he doesn’t start conversations. (But he was offended that I texted him only when I wanted to rather than regularly initially, inspite of him not starting conversation even once, except for few days after my periodic confrontations.

It was my mistake that I ended the friendship but did he have no importance for me that he didn’t even try to save the friendship.

The other day I causally texted about a favour and he didn’t bother to write (I am pregnant and I wanted to tell him only after 12 weeks due to my miscarriage history, but since he is my husband’s bestie he already knows. (My husbands friend)he old me first when they were pregnant after infertility issues) is it possible he is offended by the fact I didnt tell him about it yet.

Should I even try to work out this relationship.

He is no longer of the same importance to me but he is a nice person and having him around was worth it

All I want to know is should I let this friendship die or do something.

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14 Answers

chyna's avatar

Hello and welcome to Fluther.
I am much like your friend. Other people text me first. I don’t initiate the first text unless I need an answer to a question. That doesn’t mean that I didn’t think of them as friends. I just don’t make the first contacts.
However, it does sound as if your friendship with him is over. Perhaps because friends usually do not discuss their friendship status and maybe because you brought it up on a few occasions you made him feel weird about it. Or perhaps it was because most of your texts were about yourself and your issues. Ask yourself if you were as good of a friend to him as he was to you.
Since it has been so long, I think I would let it go and just remember that you have to be a friend to have a friend. Don’t use them as just a sounding board to your problems.

Goldpepper's avatar

I agree, indeed he must have felt awkward.

By the way I think you didn’t really read my in betweens, I didn’t use him, I did put alot of energy in this friendship, I said that’s how I used to be initially (when I initially got to know him)
I don’t use people

zenvelo's avatar

Welcome to Fluther.

A couple of observations:

1. You always initiated, not he.
2. He respected the boundary of you being his friend’s wife, He would have no business initiating with you.
3. You only reached out to him when you needed him. Despite your denial of this, that is exactly what “using him” is.
4. You seem to have developed an emotional affair with him. That is when someone becomes emotionally dependent on someone outside of the marriage.
5. Your actions put him in an awkward position.

My advice to you is to stop reaching out to him, stop communicating with him unless he reaches out to you.. And just realize you have avoided making a mess of your marriage and break the whole thing off.

Does you husband know of the extent of your communication with his friend?

Goldpepper's avatar

Reached only in the begining like that, I wasn’t using him during the entire course of my friendship like that.

I would have rather appreciated if you asked me first rather than stating what I had for someone

Emotional affair, I didn’t have any emotional affair with him(I don’t know what made you say this) I just told him because when ever I tell my husband about it, it pushed him into deep worries and would feel very sad for him, I just did cause he is my husbands best friend so he knows the boundary and will stay with limits.

And by the way i wouldn’t have brought any mess to my marriage at any time because my husband literally knew every text I wrote him, sometimes it’s who I ask if it’s how I had to write this.

I have once spoke about my entire life to a stranger on during my flight journey and felt so much relief (I would rather share my worries with an unknown who has no emotional effect on it than telling someone who cares about me alot and starts worrying about something that hurts me.

I just wanted to clear that to you.

It’s like you saying you have an emotional affair with your psychiatrist because you go share with him your moodswings when you have a bad time.

cazzie's avatar

I think you are probably over sharing with him. Dial it back.

marinelife's avatar

There seems to be a lot of unbalance in this relationship. I am not sure why you felt the need to have such a close friendship with your husband’s best friend. It seems a little puzzling especially if he is also married.

Men don’t often feel like texting as much as women. I think that you were expecting too much and were acting very one-sided in your friendship efforts. You admit that you would contact him only when you were down and not in between. It sounds like you were using him. You ask why couldn’t he just contact you to ask how you were doing. I would turn that around and ask why couldn’t you just contact him to ask how he was doing. Why did it always have to be when you needed your mood lifted?

I think that you threatening to end the friendship was childish. I don’t blame him for feeling like he wants to keep some distance after you tried to resume things. Once bitten, twice shy.

Frankly, if I were him, I would only do the minimum necessary because you were my best friend’s wife. Otherwise, I would avoid you.

Goldpepper's avatar

@marinelife thanks, I like how you talked about your opinion on how you would have behaved.

That’s why because he was my husbands best friend. How does it even matter if he was married or not, I wasn’t trying for something else here.

janbb's avatar

It’s clear that he wants more distance from you and I think it would be better for you and your marriage if there were more distance. Maybe think of trying to get from other friends what you got from the friendship with him and don’t make a drama of ending this, but decrease your involvement with him. This is something I have had to learn to do a few times in my life. And I would be asking myself what am I not getting from my husband that I need another man as such a close friend? Not that it isn’t fine to have many close friends of either sex but this one sounds like you needed him too much.

Goldpepper's avatar

I just don’t understand why many people talk about jeopardizing my marriage. I have few gf who are as dependant on me. Is the gender differences the only cause.

I have had only one other guy friend from college, he was depressed and had family issues and he rang me up as and when he needed as a support system. I never thought anything about it.

My brother was my best male friend, he got married and then everything changed for the obvious reasons, he got so distant and I missed him so much.

Infact this guy friend I am talking about, I have at many instances told him how much he fills up the void of not having my brother. When I had this strongly brotherly urge for him I have no idea why I get so many opinions on emotional affair.

Cooper_Saldana's avatar

Umm…My wife used to text other guys or “friends” as she called them and she ended up cheating.
I used to talk to another woman online, I didn’t cheat, but I started to like talking to her more than my wife and that’s possibly how we drifted apart in the first place and led to her cheating.
I guess I’m trying to say that these opposite sex “friendships” can lead to problems.
Maybe you should try to connect with your husband more and if that’s not filling your needs consider splitting up BEFORE anyone cheats.
Being cheated on by a spouse is hell especially if you have children.
That was my experience with opposite sex friendships outside the marriage, but I hope it works out for you.
Good luck.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Welcome to Fluther.
Guess what. I am going to tell you what everybody else missed.
Fluther is your place.
Don’t be angry with your friend. He was a giving person, and allowed you to use him in the way you have. He was your compassionate listener when you needed one. It was not a responsibility he asked for.
So, now here you are, wanting a way to air your feelings. That is exactly what we do here. We share, we gripe, we ask questions, even the embarrassing kind. We check up on each other.
You can almost always find someone who disagrees with you here, but that is okay. That gives you exposure to fresh perspective. You can also almost always find somebody here who will agree with you.
Let your husband’s friend be HIS friend. You hang out here, and find some friends.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Welcome to Fluther.

Yeah, it sounded like it had a potential for problems there. Perhaps he is simply being respectful of his best friend, your husband. Let it go.

Kardamom's avatar

I think it’s very odd that you had such an intimate relationship with your husband’s best friend (even if it wasn’t physical) but you can’t see how that was an emotional affair.

I also find it weird that you only texted/talked with your husband’s friend when you were feeling down, and not just casually. You depended on this man to give you some sort of needed emotional high, and when you didn’t need it, you didn’t ecen talk to him. The whole thing is weird and very unusual to me. You were creating the recipe for a disaster in your marriage.

Is there some reason you chose to seek out your husband’s friend, instead of directing your intimate conversations to your husband?

The man was your husband’s friend. You were treating that man like a boyfriend, even though you weren’t (yet) having a physical relationship.

I suspect the the man kind of knew what was going on, maybe realized that it was not a good idea, and might destroy his friend’s marriage, and that is why he backed away from you.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

Perhaps your friend felt your relationship with him was beginning to overstep boundaries he wasn’t prepared to cross. Even if you didn’t see him in a romantic way, perhaps he felt there was potential for things to go too far. Maybe he is attracted to you even if he hasn’t shown that to you. I agree with those who have said back away and let him have his space. I’d let sleeping dogs lie.

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