Is Murty a nickname or shortened version of the name Mortimer?

I would have said Morty was.

I just looked it up and it might be a first name—not a nickname. There was a person named Martin that popped up though, and their nickname was Murty.

Not sure how credible this is, but here is the source that says it’s a first name

If it is a nickname, then Mortimer is fairly close. If it’s in the same time frame and no other records match Murty, then Mortimer is probably the full name. The nickname could have derived from an accidental misspelling of Morty, or something of that sort. Who knows, It would be interesting to find out as Murty is an interesting nickname.

This may be a dumb question, I’m not familiar with what you are doing (Finding out who your ancestors are) Is the XXXXXX a last name? Are you just editing out for Fluther or is it not telling you?

^^I would have thought Morty, also.

Murty XXXXX

The fiftieth one to hold the title “Murty”. Impressive family history!

@Call_Me_Jay, that would be Murty L.

@Jeruba And the nickname would be Myrtle.

@SergeantQueen I have the last name, I just chose not to share it with the pool. And thank you for the link. This actually makes sense as this someone was Irish so the Celtic would be expected. And as the Griffiths Valuation was/are English records of landholding in Ireland I could easily see how Muiriartach could be transliterated at Mortimer and (with a nod to @janbb) how Murty could be the Irish spelling of Morty since it appears much of the spelling was arbitrary and phonetically based.

I followed the link to Muiriartach and it states that “The name can be Anglicized as Mortimer”. So that sounds like a good lead to me.

Thanks to all.

One former Butler was named Mortimer, never heard of Murty though, we just called him Mouse

I’m thinking Murty is from Murtagh.

@jca there is certainly some credence to that. The only downside is that Murtagh is usually a surname, not a forename. It would be more of a possibility if the family name was Murtagh, say if his name was Patrick Murtagh and he was known as Murty but, in this particular case, it is used as a forename in documents with a different surname.
Of course, it is not that uncommon for the surname of the mother to become one of the forenames of the child.

One of the problems I have run into with Irish ancestors is that they seem to like to use the same forenames from generation to generation. If a family has three male children and name them Michael, Patrick and John then when they have children Michael will name his children Michael, Patrick and John; Patrick will name his children Patrick, Michael and John and John will name his John, Michael and Patrick. And they in turn will do the same. So it is not unheard of to have three cousins, all contemporaries, named Michael with the same surname and all living in the same town or village.

@rojo: Also, sometimes people base their nicknames on their last names.