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UzZiBiKeR's avatar

Does anyone care that the planet is warming at an alarming degree?

Asked by UzZiBiKeR (452points) September 4th, 2017

Climate change

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cookieman's avatar

Sure. Lots of people care.

Coloma's avatar

Absolutely but fear it is too late. From she who is barely alive after a week of 106–7-8 degree temps and raging fires here in CA. It has been unbearable, seriously death would be preferable to living in these hellish temps. Nuclear summer.

Earthbound_Misfit's avatar

What is your point? Yes, people care.

AshlynM's avatar

I’m sure some people do.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I think it was a program on tv that I heard the melting of the poles is not only a symptom of global warming, but also a contributing factor.

According to the report, the ice at the poles reflect the sun’s rays, and reduces the amount of heat absorbed by the planet somewhat.

I would like to know if anyone has information to expand on that, and if it is so, why isn’t there any planning in place to find some sort of substitute for the effects of that missing ice?

Anyone?

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Sure, but what are you going to do about it? LOLOLOLOLOLOL! Aaaahaa.

Don’t mind me. An over-heated monster named Irma is knocking on my door. You think I should answer it?

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

^^LOL! A gazillion GA’s for that one, gurl.

Man, I needed that. LOL.

JLeslie's avatar

I hear about it almost every day. People seem to care.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@Patty_Melt . My understanding is that the ice is white. That reflects the Sun better than most colors. As it melts, dirt and debris darken the color of the ground. In many places there is black rock under the ice. These darker colored patches absorb the sunlight, and with it heat. That helps heat the surrounding areas at a faster rate. Unfortunately, this is a variable in why the warming is cyclic…

I once read a article in which the author proposed putting giant shades in Earth’s orbit. Kind of like sunglasses. They were described as massive discs, that would dim the Sun’s rays. More could be added, or they could be removed fairly easily. And the price wasn’t bad. That’s one of many ideas for slowing/nullifying the warming.

janbb's avatar

Unfortunately, the Powers that currently Be in the US government don’t care at all. Instead of taking steps forward we are taking massive steps backward. Other countries will lead the way but I fear it is too late.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

It’s never too late, @janbb. If we think like that, we might as well all cut our throats right now. There is some good news. Since Trump pulled out of the Paris climate deal, certain people in our government and the private sector have kept our membership alive de facto. We’re finding ways to work around this guy. Buck up and hang in there. LOL. The Civil Service can be a real pain in the ass when they don’t agree with der fuer. I cite the EPA. Notorious little bastards. LOL

josie's avatar

If people didn’t care, they wouldn’t be talking about it all the time.They clearly do care, because the topic comes up everywhere.

A great lesson in the value of free speech.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Elected leaders come and go, but the Civil Service is forever. There is a lot of power in that.

JLeslie's avatar

@janbb Too late to help the climate change? Is that what you mean? Many states and communities are going to stay on track. Also, the solar industry, and other green industries, are getting bigger, and that’s creating jobs, so it will continue to grow most likely just because of market forces.

A whole generation of young people are growing up with more concern for climate change. I hear people complain all the time the schools are teaching the “left wing agenda of global warming.” I assume it’s true it’s being taught, unless it’s one of the right wings BS messages they float through social media and emails.

Lastly, Trump hopefully is only in power for 4 years. I doubt these 4 years is a tipping point in the climate change. Some believe it is too late, and the tipping point is long gone, but I’m assuming many believe it’s worth the trouble to help retard the changes any way we can.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Most people care even if they don’t believe it is a problem. What we do about it affects everyone.

CWOTUS's avatar

Sure, people care, even those who don’t perceive change as necessarily “alarming”.

Maybe if we all wave our hands about, we can cool it down.

elbanditoroso's avatar

If you listen to 38% of the US voting population, there is no such thing as climate change, and anyway, it’s god’s will and so what…

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Is it 38% now? I remember when it was 62%. Times they are a-changin’

Zaku's avatar

The “too late” question depends on what one means. The planet’s climate is too complex for us to know what is going to happen and what we can do and when we need to do it before certain things happen. Given that it look possible that there are many catastrophic possibilities or even human extinction, it seems like people who care about the well-being of the earth would want to do as much as they can to avoid such outcomes.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

Sure, but big business and Governments( especially Republican) don’t give a fuck so what can the average citizen do about it?

Zaku's avatar

@SQUEEKY2 Well, every vote I’ve ever made, for decades, has had environmental protection the #1 issue I have in mind. So do many of my personal decisions. I think the most important thing we can all do is speak up and change prevailing conversations from apathy or helplessness to caring and expecting everyone to agree that we need to care and change our thinking and actions. That’s how change occurs – by changing conversations. If people keep saying little or nothing about it, or saying there’s nothing to be done, then we get the same behavior. If we all start saying “oh crap, we like our planet and don’t want it to go to heck, and we should all behave appropriately, what can we do? let’s do that!” then things will change.

Coloma's avatar

@Zaku Agreed, environmental and conservation are my two biggest passions. If everyone did their small part the parts would all add up to a big shift. Many do but not enough. I am pleased that I have been a steward of rural properties for decades and have, at the very least, protected my own little corner of the planet.

I also try not to drive more than necessary, recycle, don’t use weed killers and pesticides and have made my properties havens for wildlife. Thing is with countries like China and India vomiting vast amounts of pollutants into the atmosphere, as well as right here at home, well….until the entire globe gets serious it does look rather bleak. Always seems to be the old one step forward, 2 steps backwards thing.

Patty_Melt's avatar

@MrGrimm888, the “sunglasses” idea sounds intriguing. Is it going anywhere? My thought involved mylar, or some other reflective surface posted in various locations.
Now, of course, those locations are greatly expanded. More improbable a solution now than ever.
I like the thought of uv protection posted “out there”.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Of course. I’m doing what modicum I can do on my part.

Patty_Melt's avatar

Okay, everybody, no more farting.

Dutchess_III's avatar

LOL! I’m talking about recycling and driving less! Stuff like that!

Coloma's avatar

and we have a steer here…oh the shame. LOL

JLeslie's avatar

Flipping Irma barreling its way west. I’m sure you’ll hear lots of people talking about climate change over the next few weeks.

Coloma's avatar

Yep, the west is on fire and the southern hemisphere is drowning. Fires and floods, waiting on the locust plagues. LOL

Patty_Melt's avatar

Looks like I’m gonna have to stock up on air mattresses and make some room in the basement for Fluther refugees.
I’m in a place with currently no threat of disaster at all. It has been at least two weeks since temps topped 85. Nights are sweet between 65 and 75 for the past month. Smog is nil.
I have a back up freezer in the basement. If we all sit on the bridge and fish at night, we could practically eat for free.

ucme's avatar

Of course they do, Michael Jackson didn’t die for nothing did he? I say…did he?

seawulf575's avatar

If you are worried about global warming, plant more plants and trees. They are wonderful CO2 filters.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

I think it will happen like this:

All the earth’s major economies are in the Northern Hemisphere. But the economics of doing what has to be done is expensive, so the leaders of these economies are resisting the idea of anthropogenic climate change because they don’t want to be the first to tank. So, if the majority of scientists are right and the climate change we have been experiencing since he industrial revolution is anthropogenic, these leaders won’t move faster to make radical changes until natural disasters become so frequent and extreme that their economies are negatively affected. Thank god most of them are Democracies.

Examples of this would be widespread, long-term drought like we’ve seen in the western part of the US in the past decade—only larger, affecting the grain belts and causing rapid increases in food pricing, and threatening famine in the wealthier countries. Or larger, more destructive storms, affecting economic centers like NYC and London. A major, long term decrease in fish populations. Or war.

We’ve had our Hurricane Sandys before. The first that comes to mind is the catastrophic storm of 1938. The last time a storm that large and violent hit the northeast coast of the US was during the French and Indian War (Seven Years War). But only 40 years later, here comes Sandy.

During extremely warm North Atlantic Ocean conditions, London has been hit by hurricanes that were generated off Africa, ran through the islands of the Caribbean, up the US east coast, back across the Atlantic to the British Isles. It’s happened. But they are considered anomalies, flukes. When these things begin happening frequently, say every five years or less, then every mensch will know the our northern oceans have warmed significantly. And it is my belief that the frequencies of these storms will increase, and possibly already have.

When and only when these things occur, will the people of these countries insist something be done by their civil disobedience. Food riots, for instance.

Hopefully it won’t be too late for the earth to repair herself and hopefully there will be governments still intact to make the concerted effort required to put the necessary changes into effect.

Good risk management says to put more money into passive technologies, lower emissions, greener ways of doing things—and not wait for the profit motive to kick in. But I don’t see enough of that happening right now. I see more than there was three decades ago, but we’re not moving fast enough.

I see the world’s governments making plans, getting organized, making deals and sharing ideas in conferences around the world, like the recent one in Paris that our president pulled us out of. But my feeling is, somebody or some thing, really needs to build a fire under their asses. They are trying to do at this point, is to make the proper changes while maintaining our standards of living. This may not be possible. We may have to drop the standard of living part for awhile. We may have to suffer a bit now so the future generations can survive.

But who will lead in these rapid changes to save the earth, a process which may very well cause world economic depression? And who am I, a guy who has spent years observing the sea and the fish habits change, the shorelines noticeably rise, estuaries die, all of which could be anthropogenic—who am I to say that we must hurry changes so quickly that it could hurt our economies and cause further suffering of innocent people?

Good risk management dictates that we risk our economies and move faster to live more harmoniously with our home planet.

NOW.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

EDIT:
...but only 74 years later, here comes Sandy.

LOL. Talk about living in the past.

NomoreY_A's avatar

Of course I care. The real question should be what the hell can I do about it?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Just what you can. Recycle is a pretty big one. Walk instead of driving. Conservation in general.

CWOTUS's avatar

This is the kind of bold action that will be needed to prevent catastrophic climate change.

Patty_Melt's avatar

I LIKE it!
It will be wonderful during rush hour when people can’t blink because their eyeballs are searing.

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