What is the origin, or determining personality factor of a female who sexually assaults people? (Details)
Do some women ,who sexually harass other people, learn the behavior from men?
Is it human nature, not testosterone that drives people to grope others?
What are your thoughts on why a female would be motivated to grope a stranger, or be highly inappropriate?
Is the behavior linked to power, or is it sexual?
We’ve had a few threads about sexual harassment. I’m trying to understand why females molest others, and why they feel OK doing it.
I think I have a grasp on why males do it. (Doesn’t mean I condone/excuse it.)
Or, do people in power simply abuse their subordinates whether male/female?
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How do you expect to generalize an answer on such a topic? From my own perspective the dismissive answer is that these are matters of self control. But I certainly appreciate the battle between my will and the hormones driving my equipment. And the headlines abound with examples of what I regard as hormone induced “errors of judgement”. Being individually wired, then exposed to an impossible variety of variables, how do you predict outcomes in an individual regarding this topic?
A very self-assured dominatrix.
There is no typical profile of a rapist. They are statistically overwhelmingly white males, but that says more about conviction rates than occurrences, and we know that’s a flawed system at best.
I’m certain there hasn’t been enough reliable study done on this topic, but if we were looking for information we might glean something from records of female teachers convicted of sexually assaulting students. The students are, at least, not laughed out of a police station (though I do understand female teachers are often given lighter sentences than their male counterparts for the same crime).
in this article (and you may be interested in the complete study [pdf embedded in link, won’t automatically download] as well) the researcher suggests that these female offenders are unlike “stereotypical” sex offenders in that they do not choose their job for the purpose of finding victims, that they may be driven more by their own unmet intimacy needs and loneliness.
This of course does not make them any less of a criminal.
I would not be entirely surprised if Random Groping Drunk Bitch is not also doing so because she is lonely and hasn’t had a significant happy relationship in a long time. And that also does not make her less of a criminal for her sadness.
Predatory behavior knows no sex. I mean let’s face it, cancer doesn’t choose a sex. Certain cancers anyway! Although oddly some illnesses do! It’s just part of the main thing which could form part of a personality disorder. I say personality disorder in the academic sense. For e.g. borderline personality disorder, or schizoid PD. Then there is the interplay of upbringing and belief systems etc..
I am not saying borderline people abuse children this was just an example of a personality disorder. Some PD’s are running concurrent along with other mental illness. Narcissistic Personality, for example, has little moral regulation. It’s quite involved! However, women would not learn it from men. Although it has been suggested that abused people are abusers, I’m not sure I buy that theory though. It is a power thing often and often it is social dis-regulation. I think if people really knew the answer to this it could be prevented somehow. It is for sure antisocial behavior both in layman’s terms and also in academic terms. @Muad_Dib mentions a good point. Preditors of whatever abnormal or deviant sexual urge ( as discussed in abnormal psychology) will seek out professions that put them in close contact with a victim. For example female and male teachers, morgue attendants, nurses etc., Financial consultants are often antisocial personalities meaning they commit financial crimes against people, but not all of course.
In my opinion, I think women who would grope a man were quite possibly sexually abused as a youngster. They learned too early how to get male attention.
Men who do the same thing are following their base instincts and just had a poor upbringing all the way around. They never learned to respect women, and they too may have been victims of sexual abuse as kids. They are often prone to violence and have very poor impulse control.
The study linked by @LornaLove is good. The answer is that the vast majority of females who sexually offend were victims of childhood abuse and adulthood domestic abuse. Many were also coerced into the offenses by accompanying males.
Here are some thoughts on the questions in the OP:
Do some women ,who sexually harass other people, learn the behavior from men? If we assume the abuse they suffered was at the hands of men, then yes, they learned the behavior from men.
Is it human nature, not testosterone that drives people to grope others? This is much too general a question. The vast majority of people do not grope others. The offenses are perpetrated by a minority of the population. If the majority were behaving that way, then it most likely would not be seen as an offense, and would instead become accepted behavior.
What are your thoughts on why a female would be motivated to grope a stranger, or be highly inappropriate? The study linked above states the majority of victims knew their offenders. Female offenders do not grope strangers.
Is the behavior linked to power, or is it sexual? I did not read the linked study closely enough to know the answer to this.
Or, do people in power simply abuse their subordinates whether male/female? Again, too general to answer cogently.
Be the ex-wife of Bruce Willis.
Thanks for everyone’s contributions.
For those who find the question too general, I suppose you’re right. However, I did get some insight, from some responses.
Most telling, to me, is the fact that there is so little research conducted on females behaving this way. It tells me that society doesn’t consider it as much of a problem, as men doing it for one. I suspect that part of the reason is that most incidents aren’t reported by men. Either because they are embarrassed, or feel it would be futile.
The teacher thing is an interesting angle on this subject. I didn’t even think about it as a similar situation. It is though. It’s at least in the same ballpark. I think of that more as seduction I suppose, but it is sexual predation.
Well, I think some female teachers do it because they want to feel young.
In one of the HS classes I subbed one one guy, a senior, was flirting really heavy with me. I treated it as a joke. At one point, after classes rotated, he came around to my open window and hoisted himself up by his hands so he could see through the open window. He said, “Will you PLEASE go out with me!!!”
Dumbshit. I slammed the window down and everyone laughed, including me.
No, I was not the least bit tempted. Maybe some of teachers are, especially if it’s one of the “popular” boys, as that one was.
^So, popularity of a boy could be a factor?
I think that’s definitely a difference in the sexes. I doubt that is a variable in a man finding a girl attractive. Although, most “popular” girls are probably good looking… Maybe I’m wrong.
I would think an unpopular student would be an easier target. You know, low self esteem.
Making them feel young also did not occur to me. A large portion of the women who have groped me are indeed older than me…
Could be. There was a lady here in town who opened her own restaurant business. She owed me money for a cash register she bought off of me. I went in a few times to see where my money was. She was about my age. One time I went in and when I saw her she was wide eyed and panicked. Her cook had just quit. Well, as one small business owner to another I stepped up, said I’d fill in until she had a replacement. I went to work that minute.
It was so weird. She had several high school girls working for her as well and it was like she was finally IN with the popular crowd. She showed certain girls obvious preference and treated the rest of us like shit.
One time I came in a few minutes early and had a smoke out back before my shift started. When I came back in, on time, she loudly announced “No more smoking during work!!”
I almost walked out. I was not one of her teeny boppers. I was a small business owner who stepped up to help her. But I wasn’t part of the giggly in group so I didn’t count.
So social status is a variable in multiple ways.
Popular social status helps/empowers the “type” who assault, and simultaneously /ironically, hinders the victims. Victims may use their own status for assaulting others in the future… Or that’s what I feel I learned here…
One of the main items I drew from the paper provided by @LornaLove was that for the majority of those in the study prior to the offense there was a period of isolation or lack of social support following a major life event or stressor.
I think that this is a major factor in many crimes/attacks, by male or female. Being socially isolated, whether by choice or by design, breeds asocial behaviors. I seem to recall a study on primates back in the 1970’s that produced similar results. Article
^For some reason, I can only see half of the link. Right down the middle.
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