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NSFW: Why is this movie allowed on YouTube?

Asked by rockfan (14632points) January 1st, 2018 from iPhone

I was doing a little research on movie censorship and came across “this”: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2569448/Australia-bans-award-winning-1980-Swedish-film-features-child-nudity.html article. I jumped on YouTube to see the trailer but discovered the entire “film”: https://youtu.be/l1KIMBs59F0 was on YouTube. The controversial scene was even more explicit than I expected it to be and was disturbed – I definitely think it should be considered child pornography. What are your thoughts on this? And should it be removed from YouTube?

The controversial scene is at 1:08:29. Again, be warned, this is very NSFW.

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LornaLove's avatar

I think it should be removed. It can be flagged for inappropriate content. Youtube does not allow sexual nudity such as this and the child is clearly a minor too. However, it seems they are not very vigilant. (I don’t know what the movie is about so in context I cannot say if it is child pornography).

SavoirFaire's avatar

When a site’s content is generated by its users—especially when the site is so large as to heavily depend on community reports to remove illicit material—it is blatantly fallacious to infer from the fact that something is on the site that it is allowed by the site’s rules. So if you think the movie shouldn’t be on the site, flag it as inappropriate so as to bring it to the attention of those who can remove it.

P.S. It is against Fluther rules to link to child pornography. So if you think the film qualifies, you probably shouldn’t have linked to it.

rockfan's avatar

I didn’t think it would be a problem considering it’s on YouTube

rockfan's avatar

I might have been a little hasty calling it child pornography. Analyzing it further, it doesn’t fit the description of it. I’m stilled shocked that it’s allowed on YouTube

SavoirFaire's avatar

@rockfan “I didn’t think it would be a problem considering it’s on YouTube”

But your question suggests that you think it shouldn’t be on YouTube, so this is an odd bit of reasoning. In any case, I wasn’t chastising you. It just seems to me that there is some sort of performative contradiction in linking to content that one thinks is illegal and/or ought not be watched.

“I’m stilled shocked that it’s allowed on YouTube”

But again, you don’t know that it is allowed on YouTube. All you know is that someone uploaded it to the site. People post spam on Fluther all the time, and sometimes it takes us some time to take it down. But that doesn’t mean it’s allowed.

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flutherother's avatar

The film is about an 11 year old boy going through puberty so it doesn’t seem too surprising it should show an erection. I don’t think YouTube should censor the film. The scenes I saw were not child pornography that is something quite different.

rockfan's avatar

If I was making a film about a boy going through puberty, I wouldn’t think that I would need to show a close up of a boy’s erection.

funkdaddy's avatar

The only reason not to show an erection in a movie about male puberty is because you think it might offend people. An honest depiction would have to deal with newfound sexual excitement at some point.

For this particular film, it might be a fine line, but no one is touching, or aroused by the young man. That scene is about him and his experience, as far as I can tell.

jazzjeppe's avatar

I was both amused and somewhat confused when I checked the Youtube link. This is a very famous Swedish film based on an even more famous novel with the same name (Barnens ö – “The island of the children”.).

I can understand that this might be a questionable film for some, especially if you aren’t from Sweden. In Sweden nudity and sexuality have been depicted on film, sometimes more or less graphic, since the 60s. I cannot recall a film that has been censored due to nudity or sexuality but up till late 90s violence was censored occasionally. I would say it is Swedish tradition not censoring – we have all seen a naked body, we have or will go through puberty and it is as natural as learning how to walk, speak and laugh.

Most of the Swedish adults, such as myself, have read the novel. The focus in on growing up, going from being a child to become an adult and puberty and sexuality is certainly something we all go through in the process and we all know the importance of it.

janbb's avatar

I agree with @jazzjeppe . I think the mores in Sweden are more open and accepting of nudity and sexuality and this would definitely be appropriate content in that culture. America is a much more prudish society than most of Europe.

LornaLove's avatar

I think what could be of concern to some people is how the film could be viewed and used? So personally I feel that although it looks like a lovely film about real life growing up young boys, certain aspects could have been shown differently since he was 11 I believe? I also feel it is debatable that a boy of 11 is beginning puberty as often this is still in latency stage. However, lately, statistics are changing.
Also one wonders if this boy was 11 and knew what he was doing in terms of depicting sexual arousal and also having to live with the movie for the rest of his life. (As I said, I don’t fully know what the movie is about).

jazzjeppe's avatar

@LornaLove
I hear your concerns and I understand if you and other people have them. Especially, as I stated in my previous answer, if you “haven’t grown up with films like this/these as a Swede”.

I will have to get back to you shortly with a proper response. For now I am thinking about the mega hit Stranger things and the fact that the main characters are pretty much in the same age as Reine, the boy in the film.

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