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When should we expect Katy Perry's resignation?

Asked by MrGrimm888 (19541points) March 15th, 2018

She forced a kiss, on a 19 year old boy. I see ZERO difference between her actions, and Frankin’s…

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MrGrimm888's avatar

The boy was very conservative, and admitted that he had hoped to save his first kiss, for someone special. He DID NOT want her to kiss him. So let’s get that out of the way.

It was unwanted. It was forced. It is on camera.

Where are the droves calling for her resignation?

ragingloli's avatar

“Hi everyone, I would like to clear a few things up for anyone who is confused, concerned, or angry. I am not complaining about the kiss from Katy Perry at all, doing a few news reports and being interviewed by many different reporters has caused some major questions. The way certain articles are worded is not done by me, and my true intentions are not accurately represented in every article you read about the situation. I am not complaining about the kiss, I am very honored and thankful to have been apart of American Idol. The main purpose for the show is to find stars and new music artist. I do wish I would have performed better in the moment. I should have picked another song to sing and calmed myself down regardless of the kiss. I should have been able to perform under pressure. I do not think I was sexually harassed by Katy Perry and I am thankful for the judges comments and critiques. I was uncomfortable in a sense of how I have never been kissed before and was not expecting it. My main goal is to reach people through the universal love of music and not cause strife or anger against anyone or about any situation! Please take into consideration that I don’t believe my views have been appropriately communicated through the media! Thank you to everyone who has followed me in this journey and I hope I answered a few questions”
https://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/102317722/american-idol-singer-on-surprise-katy-perry-kiss-i-wasnt-harassed

MrGrimm888's avatar

^It happened without consent. Frankin’s victim also felt it was water under the bridge.

It is PRECISELY the same type of incident.

jonsblond's avatar

I agree that this is the same type of situation that has recently ended careers for men.

Did Katy think any young boy would want a kiss from her because she’s Katy Perry? You know, just like every woman wants to be grabbed by the pussy by Trump. Same thought process imo. “They let me do it because of who I am.”

Zaku's avatar

@MrGrimm888 It might help to ask the actual question rather than about the similar example which we know the answer to. That is, it seems to me you really want the Franken case to be addressed and so on, no?

johnpowell's avatar

I suggest watching the video.. If you haven’t. If you can’t see the difference send me into Matt Damon’s corner.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Sorry, but you don’t get to co-opt someone else’s experience and claim sexual assault on their behalf. And you especially don’t get to as a cheap and transparent ploy to air your greviance with some other unrelated event.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^How is the other event unrelated?

There’s nothing cheap about holding everyone to the same standards…

I support Franken stepping down. I like/ed him. But he screwed up and it cost him.

I like Perry too. But this is a conversation that needs to be had. I think.

gorillapaws's avatar

@MrGrimm888 I do actually think there is a bit of a double standard here. There’s an implicit assumption that men “always want it,” and to be fair, in many cases that assumption is valid. The inverse of that mentality kind of takes away agency from women and imposes some puritanical assumptions on women: “they never want it.” The sad result of this thinking is that if “she didn’t stop it from happening then she’s a slut/whore/not a victim.”

That’s why I think it’s unhealthy/dangerous to make assumptions about consent based on gender.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Correct. It’s the double standard, that I wanted to explore.

In both Franken, and Perry’s cases, it seems like a exercise in poor judgment from an otherwise decent person. Well. That’s my take. One instance ultimately ruined a career. The other is just not a big deal. If all of the feminist, and “me too” type rhetoric is about gender equality, where is it?

I’m not calling for Perry’s head. But I think it is time for people to explore the societal inequalities that aren’t just men behaving badly. The bottom line is, the kid didn’t give Perry consent. Regardless of whether or not he let’s the incident go, it seems crystal clear that if he could have simply not had the situation occur, he would have. And it’s clear that he felt violated. It’s also cleat that Perry abused her power, and you can see a level of excitement in her while taking some of this kid’s innocence. If the tables where turned, and it was a mid 30 year old famous man, displaying the same excitement as he forced a 19 year old girl on a talent show to kiss him, he would have been destroyed. Anyone doubting that, hasn’t been paying attention.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@MrGrimm888

(Apologizes for the delayed response, I’ve been away for a bit.)

The supposed “victim” in this case wasn’t bothered by the kiss, and isn’t claiming sexual assault/harassment/etc. Full stop. As I said, you don’t get to co-opt someone else’s experience. If the guy feels assaulted and wishes to call it out as such then we can perhaps compare it to the Franken case.

That’s really all there is to be said about it.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^I have listened to the kid, and watched the incident. My opinion, is that he was definitely/obviously not OK with it. And he let it slide (what most males do.) Remember that Franken apologized, and the woman publicly accepted it.

I’m personally a repeated victim of women sexually assaulting me, so maybe I’m just jaded. But I would like to see some progress in society with women being held accountable too. That’s all.

Thanks for your contribution.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Or maybe you’re reading what you want into it.

Brian1946's avatar

After Trump’s resignation.

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