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Dutchess_III's avatar

If the police are shooting unarmed black men because they're racist, then why aren't more unarmed black women being shot?

Asked by Dutchess_III (47049points) March 29th, 2018

Just a thought I had.

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RedDeerGuy1's avatar

~Because black womem are only scary when you take a paternity test on Maury.

Dutchess_III's avatar

So are they shooting because they’re afraid and not barbecue they’re racist?

RedDeerGuy1's avatar

Not sure. Most Women don’t prowl around back yards at night causing trouble. Black men can put up a fight even if unarmed better than women. I’m not scared of physical violence from women. I am freaked out at taller men than me they don’t have to be black. I don’t know how women can fall in love with someone physically intimidating taller.

Dutchess_III's avatar

We assume they will protect us @RedDeerGuy1/

Aster's avatar

I think most police think of women as being innocent compared with males. But this is one crime that infuriates me! It should be on the news daily . Wasn’t he shot 22 times? HORRIBLE; MURDER.

thisismyusername's avatar

First of all, black women are killed by police. But the fact is, black men have been demonized to the point where cops – even if they mean well – are just more likely to use force against black men. Add to the fact that there are plenty of racist cops, and policing as an institution is racist, and you’re going to have interactions between police and black men (and boys) that end up with dead black men at a higher rate than others.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

Police don’t shoot many women of any race.

There is no central collection of data on police shootings. The Feds gave up in 2014 because cooperation varies so much among police departments that you can’t compare numbers.

Vice tried to get a handle on the numbers, looking at the 50 largest departments.

People fatally shot by police 2010 through 2016.
36 women
1,104 men.

thisismyusername's avatar

@Dutchess_III: “So are they shooting because they’re afraid and not [because] they’re racist?”

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

flutherother's avatar

It would seem they are racist and sexist.

johnpowell's avatar

Can we give up the pretense that cops are all brave and shit and protecting us while putting themselves in harms way? Shooting a unarmed man 20 times in his grandmas backyard because you think you see a cell phone is the opposite of bravery.

You fucking hate the teachers union.. But you love the police ones. All i need to know.

Unofficial_Member's avatar

Women generally aren’t seen as the more dangerous, aggressive, possible perpetrators. Even more so with unarmed women. I believe that if we judge from the statistics we can see that there are considerably more male inmates than female inmates each year and the highly fatal crimes are also mostly comitted by men so perhaps law officers simply generalize that and act according to their personal belief.

kritiper's avatar

Women aren’t as violent and graphic as men so they don’t tend to get in the line of fire as much.

MrGrimm888's avatar

In my opinion, fear is the primary motivation for the shootings. Many white officers are simply culturally ignorant of black people. Fear, mixed with adrenaline, and a finger on the trigger.
Fear of the dark, or fear of water are great examples of how our minds work. Knowledge is indeed power, and we fear what we don’t understand. Most people afraid of the dark, are afraid of that lack of information. Same with the water. We simply cannot sense possible danger, or make good decisions based on no input. Even stupid people have a relative sense of fearing the unknown.
So. You take an officer who doesn’t know much about a man, mix in his fight or flight wiring, and as he has no choice of flight, he may overreact and use what means he feels will protect himself (or herself.)

Many situations in law enforcement call for split second decision making. That decision may lead to the death of one’s self, or the death of another person. In many situations, there isn’t really a “good” or “correct” response. It’s not a fun job.

Racism. Let’s keep in mind that just because someone is racist, doesn’t mean that they would willingly murder people of whatever color they dislike. Baring that in mind, we return to fear as primary motivation.

Women. I’m not telling anyone anything they don’t already know. Females are likely half the strength of a male of equal size. A female that an officer is interacting with, is simply not going to pose as large of a threat as a male in similar circumstances. So. Again, we return to fear as motivation.

Training has a LOT to do with it. Up until very recently, officers are trained to protect themselves. There is an assumption that if an officer has their weapon drawn, whomever they are pointing it at must be a nefarious character, and the “bad guy.” So. Officers are trained to eliminate the threat, and come home to their families. The officer training people how to shoot, is hoping that the officer will survive an encounter requiring lethal force. That means putting multiple rounds in center mass. This reduces the chance of the perpetrator returning fire, or otherwise being capable of hurting the officer. This is precisely the reason that when people are shot by police, they are usually shot multiple times.

Then, there’s what I call a barking dog factor. When a single dog starts barking, usually many others will start barking too, even without knowing what is going on.
If there are multiple officers holding drawn weapons and one starts shooting, others will automatically start shooting as well. Again, even if they don’t have information on why. And again, fear is the driving force…

My opinions are based on years of experience as a LEO. There are indeed “bad cops.” As in any profession. But my interpretation of the main problem (at least currently) is fear based upon ignorance.

Another angle here, is fear in the case of the black community. Many are afraid of having a negative interaction with the police. This fear motivates behavior that can be interpreted as “guilty” behavior. Examples are trying to hide from police, or running for no reason. When someone is running, an officer will assume that the person has something to hide, and one thing at the top of their mind is a gun. So. Once a chase (on foot, or car, or whatever) is on, tensions are already raised. Then the person running and the pursuing officer are in a high state of tension. Mixing high stress, and firearms is a recipe for disaster.

So. In a way, it is cyclical. The fears that the civilians and cops have play into each other. We all know what the results can be.

I would add, that my personal experiences with women indicate that they will run, in a vehicle, but not usually on foot. Just another tidbit. Honestly, I didn’t think about that much, until crafting this response…

Zaku's avatar

Definitely not barbecue they’re racist.

Blackberry's avatar

The “no women, no kids” rule.

Dutchess_III's avatar

What rule is that?

stanleybmanly's avatar

you don’t shoot women & kids, even black women and kids. The thing to appreciate about what appears to be an inexplicable outbreak of black men shot for insufficient reason is probably not the case. I have never met a Black man, regardless of social standing or position, who expected equitable treatment at the hands of the police. It isn’t that the incidents are exploding in frequency. It is simply that the cops can no longer get away with it!

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Yeah. Honestly, the police/black community relationship is sadly probably better than it has ever been. But camera phones, and media are exposing the bad stuff.

There was a cop in Chicago that tortured confessions out of hundreds of black men. At least that stuff has reduced significantly. Long way to go though…

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