Will Trump be forced to testify before Mueller’s grand jury?

I cannot envision that. Can he not have someone testify for him?
I don’t really know much about it. But I think he may be in serious trouble.

I doubt if they would tolerate a substitue, since a lot of the questions would almost certainly be about his intent. As repugnant as I believe the man to be, this is another instance where I almost pity him.

He can’t keep his stories straight; so that could be the end, so he would just purger himself during a Federal Grand Jury. Turn off the lights
His lawyers are all scared of his going in front of Mueller.

He wont be able “fire” Mueller after he lies to the Grand Jury.

Nothing good can happen for Trump once he swears to tell the truth.

Trump swearing to tell the truth? Now there’s an amusing thought.

exactly. And I cannot imagine Trump answering 20 questions on any topic you might care to name or even talk, or read a book of nursery rhymes aloud without the perfunctory lies that tumble from him like dandruff.

Trump cannot be forced to testify, nor subpoenaed. He is Mueller’s superior.

But Trump WANTS to give the interview, and if he does, you got him where you want him. Its hard to imagine he will keep a consistent story. People have gone to prison for lesser things when lying or giving inconsistent information to the feds. A.K.A. Martha Stewart.

No matter what damning information given is confirmed or denied. They will get him for lying under oath to federal investigators.

@Yellowdog Not true Clinton was subpoenaed during Lewinskiy as was Nixon during Watergate.

My guess is that they will give him questions and he will give written answers. But he will not be forced to testify about anything. Besides, if it were me and Mueller wanted to ask me a bunch of questions in an effort to burn me, I would just plead the 5th amendment and let it go at that. A person cannot be compelled to testify against himself and that is exactly what Mueller is hoping for.

And besides that, there really isn’t a crime to testify about.

A plea of “5th Amendment” would be damning !

Oh I forgot @seawulf575 Republican Presidents never commit crimes; Nixon was “railroaded.”

Clinton ignored the subpoena, and Clinton was involved in a civil case, not a criminal one.

Seawulf575:: They wouldn’t ask for testimony about a crime. Just an inconsistent story.

Like so many teevee interviews with Stormy, they’d ask 30 questions about what took place in the one-night affair, find an apparent inconsistency somewhere in the thirty answers and charge him with perjury.

Although he couldn’t be indicted, the inconsistency in the story (e.g. who removed their pants first, if his story differed from Stormy Daniel’s or if Trump refused to testify for sake of decorum) would be grounds for impeachment.

@Tropical_Willie Of course Republicans (and I’m not excluding presidents) commit crimes. Nixon is a fine example. But tell me, what is the crime here? What is Mueller really trying to get Trump on? Please, enlighten us.

@Yellowdog No, an inconsistency of stories would be a he said/she said and wouldn’t be anything. AND…a consensual sexual affair isn’t grounds for impeachment. Neither is lying about it. And honestly, neither is offering the woman money to be quiet about it. Those just don’t rise to the level of High Crimes and Misdemeanors. Unless he lied under oath, in which case, just like Slick Willie, it would be perjury. So far he hasn’t been under oath so really…there is nothing. No crime. Even the “collusion with Russia” garbage that has fallen by the wayside really isn’t a crime either.

THIS is going nowhere ! Mueller is looking for collusion with a foreign government during an election process. It is NOT who took who’s panties off. The $130,000 payment may have been made with campaign money a No-No; but is secondary.

Oh Trump quote, “There was no COLLUSION ! ” That will get him off when they complete the investigation, that or “You’re fired to Mueller.”

No one can testify in someone else’s place.

If Trump says the affair happened at the Humpy Dumpy Hoe-Down behind Trump Tower in Atlanta, GA, and Stormy says it happened at the Humpy Dumpy Hoe-Tell behind Trump Tower in Atlanta, they’d say they got him on a Technicality

There was no collusion with a foreign government and the only criminal activity since the Mueller investigation began has been by our own government. Stormy will have to do.

Rudy Giuliani, Trumps brand new lawyer, claimed that Trump paid that $130,000 back to whoever shelled it out. Guess he forgot to check on the status of the case, where it’s maintained that Trump knew nothing about it. Way to go! We got a Trump lawyer on OUR side!

^^ So sez Trump “No Collusion” but Mueller is closing in on Cohen and others who might “flip” for a reduced sentence – – @Yellowdog It not the movie star that is the issue! But Trump has lots of smoke screens and lies to distract from the Russian connection.
Next maybe his divorce

“It ain’t over ‘til the fat lady sings”, Music Appreciation class Opera 101. And isn’t over because Trump says it is over.

So I will ask again…exactly what crime has Trump committed? Not “they may find something eventually”, but what crime? Meeting with foreign governments is not a crime in the political world. Even working with foreign governments isn’t. If you want to say that a person worked with a foreign government to upset our election process, there is far more evidence that it was Hillary as opposed to Trump. Who bankrolled the Steele Dossier? Hillary. Where did much of the data in that supposedly come from? Russians with ties to the government. And is that dossier at the heart of all the hoo-haw? You bet. So who is fiddling with the elections?
As for Stormy Daniels, there is no crime there either. The only thing that the left is hoping is that they can tie campaign funds to the pay off to the girl. But let’s be honest, most of our ruling elite use campaign funds unlawfully. Most are given the option of paying the money back. Not really impeachable offense given past practice in DC. And right now there is zero evidence that any campaign funds were used for this purpose.

Funneling money through the NRA to Trump campaign would be a start.
Russian oligarchy leaders flying in private jets dropping off cash. But “No collusion ! ! !”, sez Trump.
Meetings with baskets of cash from Russia is illegal when it used for campaign funding. But “No collusion ! ! !”, sez Trump.

Prove MOST of the “ruling elite use campaign funds unlawfully” not your biased opinion of the government for the elite but proof.

@seawulf575 the Mueller investigation is trying to establish the extent of Russian meddling in US elections and there is no doubt there was meddling. Why Trump feels the need to constantly repeat “no collusion” and “witch hunt” i don’t know but it is not the behaviour of an innocent man.

Obama was in flagrant denial that the Russians could rig an election—and even ridiculed Trump and his supporters for suggesting it.

Until Hillary lost. Instead of conceding, Hillary screamed for people to resist. The media has manufactured stories day after day after day, for a year and a half now. No collusion.

Mueller and his team have destroyed dozens of lives, of people who have lost their homes and owe hundreds of thousands in legal fees. They’ve broken down doors with guns blazing at four A.M., terrorizing women and children, and destroying lives, reputations, finances. Gestapo techniques.

Innocent citizens have been subject to illegal search and seizures as offices are raided, illegal wiretaps have been utilized, to spy on a rival political party, to frame and take down the President. People have been threatened and squeezed to testify but they have nothing to flip.

What we DO know is that Hillary bought and paid for a dossier to frame Trump, using Christopher Steele (a foreign former British spy) who used Russian government sources to frame Donald Trump. Mueller doesn’t seem interested in investigating what the Inspector General report has revealed, or any other congressional report or investigation.

This is an attempt for the first time in our history to unseat a U.S. president through a political coup.

But the effort is beginning to unravel.

I think most Americans do NOT believe the Russian narrative.

If the U.S. becomes another banana republic, if Trump fails, then North Korea will remain a nuclear threat and the middle eastern alliances we have formed will die as well.

The way to unseat a president is at the ballot box, not a coup that weaponiizes our law enforcement meant to take out drug cartels and terrorists and use it against a rival political party. Donald Trump’s only crime was winning an election intended and possibly rigged for Hillary. The only reason you hate him is he represents conservatives, Christians, Israel, and regular middle Americans.

All this—because you lost an election. But I think its unravelling.

If you the crime you’ll do the time.

It is not over just because Trump says it is over and “No collusion ! ! !”, sez Trump.

It’s not Hillary, it is a toxic condition cause by Russian money in the election backing Trump.

Which your “thinking” really just your opinion “most Americans do NOT believe the Russian narrative” is only interesting @Yellowdog !

There IS no CRIME. You LOST an election. Get over it.

We all lost an election it’s just that some haven’t realised it yet.

@Yellowdog Your scenario of a guilt free Trump under persecution by a bloodthirsty “guns blazing” DOJ is ridiculous on its face. And that “lives have been ruined” nonsense is the dependable argument from criminals since the dawn of time. Both Capone and Manson moaned about their “victimization”. I too believe that Trump’s necessity to pay women to “get a little” is not a crime, just another slimy “business deal”. You keep referring to alleged criminal conspiracy on the part of the Obama/Clinton entourage, but here are the BIG differences between that supposed cabal and the current crop of gangsters. INDICTMENTS, and plenty of them. The ceaseless droning of the Trump mob about “political witch hunting” grows ever less sympathetic as witch after witch from the Trump coven is indicted and carted off to be burned at the stake. The repeated accusations of Trump as victim of a vindictive marauding Department of Justice are also dubious to anyone with a brain (a handicap, mercifully sparse among Trump devotees). This is a REPUBLICAN DOJ, under a REPUBLICAN President and a REPUBLICAN Congress. The investigation of Trump was unavoidable once It was determined that the Russians worked actively toward his election and the undermining of his opponent. These are facts beyond dispute, and as more and more revelations arrive and the indictments, convictions, plea bargains pile up, the net enclosing Trump tightens. The Stormy Daniels affair is likely a petty distraction in the case being constructed by Mueller, except for the demonstration that wherever you look in the Trump closet you will never be disappointed when it comes to sleaze and lurking criminality. In the end, even the staunchest conservatives realize that Trump dare not submit to any investigation on ANYTHING. The man’s dealings simply cannot withstand looking at and everybody knows it!

@Tropical_Willie You amuse me! You demand proof of something I stated and yet you, in the same response, stated all sorts of things for which there is no proof. You really are a cliche. Here’s a big difference between you and I: I can follow up my statements with examples.

https://nypost.com/2014/03/27/sen-reid-gave-17k-in-campaign-funds-to-granddaughter/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/de-blasio-donor-turned-blind-eye-illegal-contributions-article-1.3890675

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mike-pence-used-campaign-funds-to-pay-his-mortgage--and-it-cost-him-an-election/2016/07/15/90858964-49ed-11e6-bdb9-701687974517_story.html?utm_term=.71ff4976ebc3

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/01/07/obama-campaign-fined-big-for-hiding-donors-keeping-illegal-donations

https://www.inquisitr.com/2692279/bernie-sanders-accused-of-mishandling-campaign-funds-allegedly-uses-donations-for-family-and-friends/

Yeah, @Yellowdog, what @stanleybmanly said! There are indictments! There might be something else! Of course it is the desperate cries of those that are still clinging to the past and can’t get over that Trump won. There are indictments…for things that happened years before Trump was on the scene. And some of those indictments are falling apart. And there never were indictments against Hillary or Obama…but that is ignoring the fact you stated that Mueller refuses to investigate them even when they are dropped in his lap during the course of this investigation of Russian Collusion. Face it, brother, you are wasting your breathe, just as I am. There are many that just can’t except the rigged election didn’t get the desired outcome.

So the all powerful “President Forever” can do no wrong. He hit 3001 lies since taking office.

@Tropical_Willie you continue to be a cliche! Where did I say that Trump could do no wrong? I never have in my life. What I have said is that to date, all the investigations are bogus and that there is no evidence of any wrongdoing. And there is ample evidence to back both those claims up. However, I notice that you still haven’t backed up your claims which puts you in the category of a rhetoric machine or maybe just a liberal mouthpiece. You claimed Trump (or someone, you really aren’t clear on that) funneled money through the NRA to his campaign and that Russian oligarchs flew in with baskets of money they gave to Trump for his campaign. Yet you have failed to even try to defend those accusations but have demanded proof from anyone that voices an opinion contrary to yours. sort of one-sided, isn’t it? And that is why you are a cliche.

Here are a couple of Russian Oligarchs I’m waiting for Manafort to roll over with his ties to Russia

So what you are trying to say is that the Russian Oligarchs that supposedly flew over to give baskets of cash to Trump for his campaign are the same ones that Trump is now levying sanctions against? Do you really listen to the garbage you are shoveling?

Okay it might be difficult to understand but blocking the sanctions by the President would be a little obvious that he had them on “His Team” to MAGA.

But logic is missing in many of his moves.

So we are all still waiting for you to produce the proof of your statements that Russian oligarchs flew over with baskets of cash to give to Trump for his campaign. You are also still unclear on who exactly was funneling cash through the NRA to the Trump campaign. THAT is what is difficult for me to understand…how you get to make outrageous, idiotic statements that you don’t have to back up at all while you demand proof from others of what they state.

We’re getting there.

In other words, there isn’t any proof. It’s all allegations with nothing to back it up except wild hope. Don’t you see the problem with that way of thinking? In a sane world it’s called delusional.

We’re getting there. It would be foolish for them to share every little thing they’ve discovered with the general public. Trump is an utter moron.

The facts are that are beyond dispute are that Russian kleptocrats are heavily vested in Trump condos and apartments, and that for some peculiar reason a large proportion of the captains in the Trump mob wind up hobnobbing with those same said oligarchs. Every one of the folks thus far indicted, and many whose necks are not quite yet on the block have been on these junkets. Session’s recusal is a direct result of those shenanigans, and if Kushner escapes indictment it will be a miracle. As it is, he is so far up the ass of Russian oligarchs that he can’t get a security clearance!

@stanleybmanly let’s take your statement apart to actually get to the facts. Russians invested in Trump condos and apartments. Those are investments. Many people invest in real estate and especially rental properties. It’s a great way to make money. No crime there. “A large portion” might be a real stretch for who might have been involved with the Russians. The people that have been indicted were indicted for a variety of things, but not for dealing with Russians. Lying to the FBI, supposed money laundering, etc. are the crimes….not dealing with Russians. The only indictments that involved Russians were done with the proviso that it was established that no Americans were aware of their dealings. And you are missing the piece that many of the indictments of Americans are for things that happened years before these people were dealing with Trump. These are all the facts without the emotion put in. Let’s go on. Sessions did the right thing in recusing himself. He was in a positions where his previous dealings could have been viewed as corrupt if he stayed on the investigation. Sort of like Loretta Lynch meeting with Bill Clinton privately and then announcing just days later that the investigation into Bill’s wife was being dropped. That meeting cast doubt onto the honesty of that investigation just as Sessions staying in charge of the DoJ for the Russian investigation would have.
Fact: there is nothing that points to any illegal activities by Trump. Fact: Collusion isn’t even a federal crime except in anti-trust law. That wouldn’t apply here. Opinion: there are an awful lot of people on these pages that are desperate for there to be something. Maybe they need to reline their tin-foil hats.

If you believe “collusion isn’t even a Federal crime” you’re
in for a surprise. When the “collusion” is about conspiracy with agents of a foreign government to manipulate a Presidential election, criminality is not an iffy proposition. You keep making reference to the alleged crimes of Democrats that somehow went unprosecuted. The difference between then and now can be gauged in Comey’s cataloging Trump as a mob boss. If you notice, Mueller is dismantling the Trump syndicate utilizing the exact techniques employed to disrupt other criminal mobs. And one by one the Trump capos find themselves in the docks. There
is little question that Russia amounts to the paradigm example of government through organized crime. And it is more than coincidence that so many kleptocrats from that government shovel their looted rubles into Trump’s real estate schemes. That fact combined with the shuttling back and forth of so many Trump higher ups between Moscow & DC resembles nothing less than apprenticeships and tutoring of the incoming (and inept) gangsters by their hardened and more practiced Russian counterparts. Before this is over, it’s a very good bet that some truly sweeping revelations are in store for us regarding these matters.

Criminality IS the correct term, collusion is not. So why has the media so locked onto collusion? Think about it. That isn’t an accident. When a person uses a foreign entity to get “dirt” on their opponent, that has the potential of violating election law. So why is the media continually using “collusion”? In my mind it is for two reasons. If they used the term criminality, people would look it up and see that it applied more aptly to Hillary using foreign entities to dig up dirt on Trump, and that has a paper trail of payments that cannot be denied. So the media doesn’t want people looking at that. The media knows there is nothing to the Trump/Russia thing, so they use “collusion” as a way of trying to discredit Trump to the general public. It is the hints and allegations that the liberal media is all about these days.
I made the reference to Lynch to make a point about how the public reacts to things. Her actions cast full doubt on the outcome of the Hillary investigation. That’s why the email scandal won’t go away for Hillary. Sessions did what he was supposed to and what Lynch should have done…he recused himself from all things involving the Russia investigation.
The rest of your diatribe really sounds like a loony conspiracy theorist ranting. I’m just saying.

collusion is just another word for cooperation. It’s pejorative in that it is usually reserved for cooperation in crimes, scams, swindles, etc. The Russians hacked Democratic emails and spread disinformation to facilitate Trump’s election. If Trump colluded with the Russians in the effort, it is the collusion itself that is the crime. 2 of the 3 requirements necessary to fry Trump have been established. The Russians interfered in our election process. The Russians informed the Trump outfit of purloined dirt hacked on Clinton and invited the Trump campaign to participate in its dissemination. The only question remaining is whether or not Trump took them up on the deal (colluded with the Russians).