Why is the Iran nuclear agreement so bad according to some, and good enough according to others?

The Mullahs of Iran are in the process of developing a major nuclear arsenal—we have HARD evidence of this in the form of millions of documents and photos from space.

The Mullahs of Iran chant Death to America and Death to Israel every day as they burn our flag and murder anyone who is not part of their regime.

Most of Europe tolerates this because they are afraid of them. But appeasement has never worked when dealing with murderous, rouge regimes and dictators and crazy religious theocracies whose nations hold death to Israel as the primary tenet of their faith and their constitution. Americans feature freedom and liberty as some of their tenets. The Mullahs primarily focus on death—and peace through obliterating people you hate.

Why should we remain in the deal when they have built such an impressive arsenal with the money we have already given them? Why should they be allowed. even under the deal, to build or release a nuclear arsenal at the end of the deal?

The path to peace is denuclearization of hostile regimes. Appeasement of murderous regimes has never worked. Sanctions DO work, without firing a shot. The presence of military defense and fear of retribution DOES work. That is why North Korea is de-nuclearizing after Bill Clinton made a similar deal that bankrolled THEIR arsenal

I also suspect that Obama made this mess at the last minute in order to cause problems for the incoming administration. We have hard evidence of what they are doing. Do not blame Trump. Blame Obama.

~ ~ ~ ~Let’s blame Hillary too ! j.k. ^^^^ The accord was signed by more than Obama in the West.
Some people in power want to Nuke Iran back to the “stone age.” Oh they are Muslims and control a lot of oil. Can you use nuked oil ?
Trump is of the opinion you can control Iran by threatening them with annihilation which is a western way of looking at it, many Muslims would consider death from Trump as a way to achieve martyrdom and a would accept it.

Trump certainly didn’t threaten to nuke anyone. His speech had high respect for the Iranian people and an invitation to come back to the table when they cease their arsenal.

Death chants are only coming from the Mullahs.

The Iran nuclear deal was working and was good enough for almost everyone apart from Trump and Netanyahu. Does Trump have a Plan B? I don’t think so. At the very moment he is working on a similar denuclearisation deal with a much nastier regime he shreds the deal with Iran. No good can come of this folly.

Soooo— did Netanyahu alter images from space—or fake tons (literally over two tons) of documents?

Did the Iran nuclear deal stop anything?

Did the U.S. come from being the number one opponent of Iran’s nuclear weapons program to being the bankroll of it?

Iran has not changed in three years. It is still the world’s number one sponsor of terrorism. About the only thing they have in common with many Americans is their mocking and hatred of Trump. But they hate Trump for different reasons than you. THEY hate Trump because he is an American, and they have hated Americans in a war of terror that goes back to the 1979.

The only good thing that has come out of Iran is, most of the Middle East is allied with Israel, AGAINST Iran—not all the Middle East against Israel, as it has been for the past 70 years.

Now lets hear another point of view.

@Yellowdog The whole Iran deal is now null and void – - and his Trump-dom pissed off the rest of the signers!!
Oh well that was his intent to piss off Germany, France and England! Now he is happy, so are his followers as we go down the drain!

Trump’s act may be more about curbing Iran’s influence in the Middle East than it is about nuclear weapons, which would explain why Saudi Arabia and Israel support the move.

What is disturbing is that the move was made without support from our allies. The U.S. is not strong enough to take on the rest of the world. Our isolationism facilitates China being able to gain at our expense.

It is not clear how effective U.S. sanctions will be. The other members of the deal want to continue it, and Iran has threatened to resume building nuclear weapons if it falls apart. Trump has threatened to impose sanctions on businesses that trade with Iran. We will have to see if that is sufficient to sink the agreement.

Iran never stopped building nuclear weapons.
The only thing that changed was, well, the lifting of sanctions and billions of U.S. dollars to bankroll their nuclear program.

When they were getting our advocacy, they were less vocal because they wanted us to continue giving them billions of dollars in cash and assets. But even then, they were still calling for our death, and death to Israel. They only sound more fierce now because they have been called out.

Trump wasn’t wrong about North Korea, Russia, Syria, or China even though many of you were calling for our immanent demise or for WWIII each and every time.

Iran is different. Yeah yeah. That’s precisely why we should not be bankrolling them.

Strange that when on tablet I can’t give GA to @Yellowdog‘s last post. I had to go to the desktop.

Thanks. But it’s just that U.S is out, the deal is not off. Did Trump say U.S will sanction every country that does business with Iran? Is that not hard to do?

Most of those countries(our allies that don’t agree with Trump) want to keep economic sanctions off Iran because they want to sell them passenger airplanes and other infrastructure that deteriorated with the sanctions that were in place before Obama.

If Iran had put the billions Obama gave them into these things instead of armaments, they and everyone else would be much better off by now. Now we have to deal with the mess.

@Yellowdog You have a strange concept of the truth if you believe it is measured out in metric tons. The fact is simply that under this agreement Iran cannot develop nuclear weapons and we can send in inspectors to verify this is so. Getting nuclear non proliferation agreements like this is essential if the world is not to become a much more dangerous place in the future and the international community was in agreement on this until Trump’s recent decision not to back it.

PS Iran is a Shia country and I think it is a big mistake to link Iran’s support of the Shia cause in the Middle East with the nuclear weapons proliferation issue.

Iran didn’t sign anything in this ‘deal’ and did not stop their nuclear weapons production. They didn’t agree to anything but a lifting of the sanctions against them, It was all about Obama’s political preferences in the Middle East.

Simply not true.

Do you believe this was a deal someone in Iran signed, declaring they’d build no nuclear weapons?

There were many DEMOCRATS who didn’t like this deal. The only reason people claim to now is because Trump opposed it.

Find out how much money Obama gave Iran as part of that deal…........which gave us nothing but told Iran do as you please and here are a few dollars for luck.

@Yellowdog You speak the truth here!!

Isn’t there something new today on this topic?

It was the stupidest deal in history—we have an alliance with Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Israel. This is the most unlikely and unprecedented alliance in history and a clear path to peace and stability in the region. Dealing with Iran by bankrolling them is forfeiting the alliances we have accomplished Everyone is terrified of a nuclear Iran